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Is now the time...

Mooney magic

Mooney magic

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to give up on the Kop and relocate to the Town End? After Saturdays coining I'm certainly considering it but I have major reservations.

First off why should the chavs win? Answer is they shouldn't. Problem is they are there every game whether they lob a coin at you or not. This is reason enough but I have better reasons to move but I have concerns about doing it.

My reason for sitting in the Kop for starters is I want to participate in generating atmosphere as it enhances my enjoyment of the day and also I believe it helps the team and it also enhances the reputation of the club and it's fans which could in turn attract more fans and thus swell the coffers.

Ideally I would like the Town End to be our "Kop" but I think the fans who are holding the season tickets in the middle three blocks are about as creative, vocal and partisan as the residents of Ribbleton cemetry. Every time I've had to move over there I'm constantly told by some flask-bearing-misery to sit down, and looked at as though I've got two heads if I shout or sing. What on earth they are doing at a live game I don't know. Why the hell they are sitting in our supposed atmosphere creating end, I know not least.

I propose PSG contacting the club and booking the middle block of seats for their members as a reclaim the Town End for atmosphere campaign, and let's actually do something positive. We need to move forward, and for me a move that would hear us singing proper football chants and sitting away from the shell-suit wearing, coin throwing, shoe waving, baseball capped chavs would be a welcome one.

Are you with me or agin me?:gentry:
 
I don't know what the fix is unfortunately.

Any area dedicated to try and create atmosphere will be invaded by the chav element. I think the guys who tried in the top corner of the AKTE earlier this season found that too (?).

It's such a shame - I saw prestonsg start a chant on Saturday which was just getting going when the chavs caught on and doubled the tempo 🙁 Everyone else just gave up.
 
I'll be giving the IP another go for't Lashers. If it's a bit shite again, I'll probably stay at the front of the kop. I like the town end but it's too far from the away fans.
 
Mooney magic said:
I propose PSG contacting the club and booking the middle block of seats for their members as a reclaim the Town End for atmosphere campaign, and let's actually do something positive.
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You can fuck right off.

You aren't having my seat and I'm sure anyone else behind the goals would agree.

I can just see the PSG on the phone to Degsy now, "Err... hello Derek, we'd like to book 3,000 seats for every game next season... yeah all the ones behind the goal on the Town End... what do you mean how would we like to pay?.... HOW MUCH??? errr fuckit, it doesn't matter"

Thousands of seats reserved for members of the PSG only? 😀😕😀
 
deepdaledes said:
You can fuck right off.

You aren't having my seat and I'm sure anyone else behind the goals would agree.

I can just see the PSG on the phone to Degsy now, "Err... hello Derek, we'd like to book 3,000 seats for every game next season... yeah all the ones behind the goal on the Town End... what do you mean how would we like to pay?.... HOW MUCH??? errr fuckit, it doesn't matter"

Thousands of seats reserved for members of the PSG only? 😀😕😀
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Crikey, that's some strong tipple you've got in yer Thermos!
 
deepdaledes said:
You can fuck right off.

You aren't having my seat and I'm sure anyone else behind the goals would agree.

I can just see the PSG on the phone to Degsy now, "Err... hello Derek, we'd like to book 3,000 seats for every game next season... yeah all the ones behind the goal on the Town End... what do you mean how would we like to pay?.... HOW MUCH??? errr fuckit, it doesn't matter"

Thousands of seats reserved for members of the PSG only? 😀😕😀
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Chill out, no need to get offensive. It was only a suggestion.

Anyway if you've got such a good seat I suppose that's why you don't like to stand up. What's the reason you don't sing and get behind the team then?
 
deepdaledes said:
You can fuck right off.

You aren't having my seat and I'm sure anyone else behind the goals would agree.

I can just see the PSG on the phone to Degsy now, "Err... hello Derek, we'd like to book 3,000 seats for every game next season... yeah all the ones behind the goal on the Town End... what do you mean how would we like to pay?.... HOW MUCH??? errr fuckit, it doesn't matter"

Thousands of seats reserved for members of the PSG only? 😀😕😀
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No wonder the atmosphere is piss poor on there if the shit fans have the best seats!
 
This REALLY BLOODY ANNOYS ME.

Years ago I had a great seat on the KOP, only to be told by the club that the majority of people had voted to relocate to the new Town End. The reason: because the Town End has a better atmosphere and would generate more noise. So I lost my seat on the KOP, relocated on the Town End. Fortunately I managed to get great seats on the Town End so all ended up just lovely. Then all the scroats buggered off back to the KOP, splitting the atmosphere on the Town End. Now people are complaining about the KOP and moving back to the Town End......when is this merry go round gonna stop!!!!!!😡
 
Mooney magic said:
Ideally I would like the Town End to be our "Kop" but I think the fans who are holding the season tickets in the middle three blocks are about as creative, vocal and partisan as the residents of Ribbleton cemetry. Every time I've had to move over there I'm constantly told by some flask-bearing-misery to sit down, and looked at as though I've got two heads if I shout or sing. What on earth they are doing at a live game I don't know. Why the hell they are sitting in our supposed atmosphere creating end, I know not least.
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If you stand up and block someone else's view of the game, I'm not surprised you're told to sit down. Fortunately, I have a seat with no-one in front of me, but if was elsewhere in the stand I would tell you to sit down if you were stood in front of me. I go to Deepdale to watch a game of football, not someone's back(side). If you want to stand, go to one of the back corners or some non league game.
 
We need a set stand / area where any noise makers will go and generate the noise.

I do not have an idea of where this area could be or how to get everybody on board.

However I feel the current setup is SHITE!!! We fail to make any noise and must look pathetic to any away fans.

If we had a designated area (preferably with the clubs blessing also, so we don't end up with the farce the AKTE corner turned out to be) then I feel the atmosphere of the whole stadium will improve.

If we could all agree on a set area (fans + club) then I would happily relocate there and help to make it a success, although I know organising such an area wouldn't be easy.
 
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People just have to get their heads around the fact that: -

a/ the average north end fan (and I include myself in this) is a miserable bastard
b/ all seater stadiums have killed atmospheres because you feel like a tit singing when sat down (and other people, justifiably enough, take exception if you stand in front of them)
c/ the atmosphere at north end is very good for big games when the team is playing good stuff
d/ whilst we're going well at home the football itself is pretty dull. there is little to get excited about
e/ the atmosphere in the "good old days" almost certainly as good as our rose tinted memories think it was
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f/ a lot of people (again myself included) go to football matches mainly to watch my team play football and not jump up and down and make a tit of myself all game. I do sing and chant and I enjoy it but its not the main reason I'm there.

I can't see a way through this apart from the team sorting themselves out and giving us something to really shout about. Designated noisy areas won't work - that just leads to a plastic contrived atmosphere. I think we just have to accept that it isn't going to be how it used to be (if it was actually all that good anyway...)
 
northender1881 said:
If we could all agree on a set area (fans + club) then I would happily relocate there and help to make it a success, although I know organising suh an area wouldn't be easy.
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I can only suggest you scroll-back & look at post #4.
I think you've got a Mountain to Climb.
 
b/ all seater stadiums have killed atmospheres because you feel like a tit singing when sat down (and other people, justifiably enough, take exception if you stand in front of them)
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Hate to use it as an example, but the Chavs at the top of the Kop have shown that if enough people in a certain area are perpared to stand, they will and the club will 'tolerate' it.
 
noelpne said:
I can only suggest you scroll-back & look at post #4.
I think you've got a Mountain to Climb.
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Read number 4, and in response to that, who says it has to be smak bang in the middle of the AKTE? Why not attempt to get it going again in the sparsly populated corner, only try and do it with the clubs blessing this time, I realise this would take some convincing on the clubs part.

If the club wouldn't consider this then at least we know that they don't give a toss about generating any noise within Deepdale.
 
I suppose I'll have to be content with no post-goal music and wearing my safety specs then. Sorry to ruffle some feathers that clearly don't like being ruffled.

Maybe if I attend Boca Juniors/River Plate matches once a year my thirst for atmosphere will be satisfied, because I'm clearly being too ambitious trying to stir the Town End Titchmarsh fans into action. Anyway Slimo, Hesy and KSP how was Songs of Praise yesterday by the way?
 
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