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Ambition

Realistic said:
We do need some new vision for the future, agreed. Like a John Beck character without the style of football. Or does that kind of thing not happen anymore in today's game.
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We don't have a vision though, all we have is a dream or more realistically a fantasy because that's all it is, a fantasy.
For a vision we need fresh blood at the helm, this won't happen because Trev wants to break even when he walks away and sadly nobody is gonna pay top dollar for this club.
My worry now is, can nice guy Frankie sell this club as a club of ambition to any new signings, who are talented and ambitious, looking to move up the ladder, no doubt Neil could do this when he had the passion and the belief in the early part of his tenure but we all saw his flame slowly fizzle out as he ultimately realised he'd be unable to achieve mission impossible.
Will be interesting to see how many fan's 'flame' for this great club is burning bright or flickering onto fizzle mode, the season ticket uptake will be a good indicator.
 
Paul Szacsky said:
My worry now is, can nice guy Frankie sell this club as a club of ambition to any new signings,
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Yeah and and are the lashers going to receive the money needed to mount another play off place challenge ? Because if they do it again, that will be too much to swallow. I can see protests beginning then. What good they'll do I don't know but I could see it happening.
 
Realistic said:
Yeah and and are the lashers going to receive the money needed to mount another play off place challenge ? Because if they do it again, that will be too much to swallow. I can see protests beginning then. What good they'll do I don't know but I could see it happening.
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The only protest that Hemmings will notice is fans not renewing season cards.
 
FredElseFlyer said:
The only protest that Hemmings will notice is fans not renewing season cards.
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I understand the feeling of many on here that Hemmings keeps us afloat and doesn't invest more than that. The only answer to that is... ( not speaking for you or anyone else)...who is going to give us the money if he decided to pull out. We're a mixed proposition for any potential investor.

Proud history, but nothing much to shout about for over sixty years. Good fans and plenty of them scattered around all over (they turn out in the play offs) but actual attendances week in week out, relatively poor compared to big names, which we once were.

I actually think Preston North End would be a really exciting name to see up in the top league again because of it's nostalgia. It's unique (North End) and would grace the Premiership, but is there someone with the vision to see that ?
 
Realistic said:
I understand the feeling of many on here that Hemmings keeps us afloat and doesn't invest more than that. The only answer to that is... ( not speaking for you or anyone else)...who is going to give us the money if he decided to pull out. We're a mixed proposition for any potential investor.

Proud history, but nothing much to shout about for over sixty years. Good fans and plenty of them scattered around all over (they turn out in the play offs) but actual attendances week in week out, relatively poor compared to big names, which we once were.

I actually think Preston North End would be a really exciting name to see up in the top league again because of it's nostalgia. It's unique (North End) and would grace the Premiership, but is there someone with the vision to see that ?
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To be honest the further investment dream doesn’t actually bother me anymore because I know it’s not going to happen.
It’s everything else that pees me off.
 
Until there's a sharp redress in the way that money is distributed in football, PNE stand virtually no chance of being promoted to the Premier League.

Having to compete with the three relegated clubs with their countless millions is a joke.

Let's just see how Swansea cope next season without the parachute payment and for me, that will show where we really are.
 
GloucesterPete said:
Until there's a sharp redress in the way that money is distributed in football, PNE stand virtually no chance of being promoted to the Premier League.

Having to compete with the three relegated clubs with their countless millions is a joke.

Let's just see how Swansea cope next season without the parachute payment and for me, that will show where we really are.
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Brentford didn't have parachute payments. Neither did Barnsley. Promotion, or at least reaching the play offs, is still achievable for a club of our size. But you need a plan - other than just aiming to stay afloat and pay the tax man.
 
Yes but we have no given right to be the only one of the three clubs promoted not to be the one in receipt of that payment.

Countless Championship Clubs have thrown millions to get promoted; Forest, Reading, Sheff Wed, Boro, Stoke, Plastics, Wayne Rooneys' Derby.

The list is endless. Most of them are in the cack now !

It's not all about the money, but you're right about the plan !
 
Realistic said:
I understand the feeling of many on here that Hemmings keeps us afloat and doesn't invest more than that. The only answer to that is... ( not speaking for you or anyone else)...who is going to give us the money if he decided to pull out. We're a mixed proposition for any potential investor.
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Totally agree with you here. Whilst many have pointed to clubs that have been rebought by consortiums and rich locals, there are plenty who struggle or get even worse owners. It is, at best, a massive, massive gamble. I'm totally frustrated by the running of the club but at the same time I am grateful for the stability too.
 
GloucesterPete said:
Until there's a sharp redress in the way that money is distributed in football, PNE stand virtually no chance of being promoted to the Premier League.

Having to compete with the three relegated clubs with their countless millions is a joke.

Let's just see how Swansea cope next season without the parachute payment and for me, that will show where we really are.
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Yet we have a Billionaire owner.

Millions v Billions.
 
Our club suffers massive apathy. I think the lack of "ambition" and big-spending would be accepted more, if we at least showed any effort whatsoever in turning the matchday experience into a proper day out, and main concerted efforts on marketing to new fans. We just plod along in second gear. I'm not even sure what Trevor and Peter want the club to achieve.

I've gone beyond the "dream" of the Premier League as the parachute payment situation has made it unfairly difficult. And getting my hopes up never does me any good. I'd like us to get there properly, without a cash cow investor. Football probably needs to change for that to happen - OR - we change the club and become more like Brentford.

I work in IT sales and once upon a time I "cold-called" PNE seeing if I could help with any IT requirements. I think what I was told then sums up PNE's attitude to a lot of things. Outsourced. And not done very well. Likely still expensive, but can't be bothered to check the market. Not checked the market since.
 
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