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Backpacks off?

Joanpne said:
I honestly think people lose sight of it being a sport and the need to be competitive. Like our mums used to tell us “it’s not the winning it’s the taking part”. That’s fine when you are a kid but it’s nowhere near acceptable when you are paying and getting close to nothing for it. The importance of paying that money pretty soon comes a long way down the list of priorities even in a budget for social events.
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I never bought into the Its not winning thats important," Mantra even when mine were small. Its a competitive world out there and if winning didnt matter why on earth do we keep the score?

Its fine when theyre very small, u 10s but after that they soon learn that losing isnt fun.

And thats the problem with PNE. I think weve been fed on scraps of winning for decades. Its damn well time that we really were given a little more.
 
Joanpne said:
I honestly think people lose sight of it being a sport and the need to be competitive. Like our mums used to tell us “it’s not the winning it’s the taking part”. That’s fine when you are a kid but it’s nowhere near acceptable when you are paying and getting close to nothing for it. The importance of paying that money pretty soon comes a long way down the list of priorities even in a budget for social events.
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Spot on!
 
Joanpne said:
That is just settling for. That’s why the gates never improve, because we expect little and it’s exactly what we get season on season. Hardly an inspiration to the younger people, no wonder there are so many other clubs shirts around. Why bother entering a competition year on year and being very happy with an also ran every one of them! Why bother, it’s too expensive these days to just settle for, the competition is lost before it began.
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Spot on Joan. There are plenty of clubs of our size and less that have kicked on and not just settled for.....
 
raefil said:
I never bought into the Its not winning thats important," Mantra even when mine were small. Its a competitive world out there and if winning didnt matter why on earth do we keep the score?

Its fine when theyre very small, u 10s but after that they soon learn that losing isnt fun.

And thats the problem with PNE. I think weve been fed on scraps of winning for decades. Its damn well time that we really were given a little more.
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Agree with Raefil here.
 
mapping said:
Love it !! might just get the full extended speech up on youtube before we kick off.
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Ha ha Joan, 🙂 naaa you got me all wrong , I am a born fighter, ex forces.

I can see how you get that impression thou , I guess I am a realist, I know which battles to choose to fight ( certainly not with hemmings right now)

And with regards to our club my stance is the truth hurts and I am not a gambler, whilst wishing with every core of my being that we do well and push on.

If a suitable very wealthy person comes along in the future and wants to pile millions in , then lets get it on 🙂

Back on topic , red wine decanted, sky 409 selected , churchill in the back ground .. come on lads !

edit , not quite sure how I managed to quote myself when I was quoting Joan ?
 
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Henry Weston said:
Spot on Joan. There are plenty of clubs of our size and less that have kicked on and not just settled for.....
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Dean Smith the Brentford manager has just been on football focus - he said effectively that no way does he consider Brentford to be punching above their weight - they are where they are on merit and deserve to be where they are. Many of our fans are happy to say PNE are punching above our weight and presumably they are the ones who are happy to see us floating about in the championship, almost as if we should feel privileged to be doing so against so many bigger clubs. Just saying, like.
 
Joanpne said:
What a very selfish attitude. We have been mediocre for 60 years and that’s ok? Well it maybe for you but I doubt it’s much of an inspiration for the younger generation. Amazingly, you haven’t realised Mr Hemmings is 83 so your “I’m happy right now so stuff the future” is going to be quite short lived in any event!
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Where did I say i was happy with mediocrity?
My point was that mediocrity would not see us die as a club in response to Nobbers post but without Hemmings we might just be dead and buried by now.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Dean Smith the Brentford manager has just been on football focus - he said effectively that no way does he consider Brentford to be punching above their weight - they are where they are on merit and deserve to be where they are. Many of our fans are happy to say PNE are punching above our weight and presumably they are the ones who are happy to see us floating about in the championship, almost as if we should feel privileged to be doing so against so many bigger clubs. Just saying, like.
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Hate it when I see our fans saying we're punching above our weight.
 
Joanpne said:
That is just settling for. That’s why the gates never improve, because we expect little and it’s exactly what we get season on season.
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Nah, we get small crowds because we're a small town club surrounded by big teams. Look at Sheff Utd and Portsmouth, clubs who were getting much bigger crowds than us even though we were in a higher division in contention for the playoffs.
 
pnenycx said:
Nah, we get small crowds because we're a small town club surrounded by big teams. Look at Sheff Utd and Portsmouth, clubs who were getting much bigger crowds than us even though we were in a higher division in contention for the playoffs.
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Portsmouth have been used as a yardstick before,however before their spell in the prem their gates were not anything special in the second division and certainly not much bigger than our own at this level.
 
pnenycx said:
Nah, we get small crowds because we're a small town club surrounded by big teams. Look at Sheff Utd and Portsmouth, clubs who were getting much bigger crowds than us even though we were in a higher division in contention for the playoffs.
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We have allowed ourselves to become a small town club. We were first double winners, first invincibles, still hold records to this day. We can be as big as we let ourselves be, ask Portsmouth who you quote. If you bemoan little finance a lot, invest very little, eventually everyone believes you are nothing more than a small town club. I wonder if that’s what the dingles thought about themselves when they got into Europe last season!
 
Joanpne said:
That is just settling for. That’s why the gates never improve, because we expect little and it’s exactly what we get season on season. Hardly an inspiration to the younger people, no wonder there are so many other clubs shirts around. Why bother entering a competition year on year and being very happy with an also ran every one of them! Why bother, it’s too expensive these days to just settle for, the competition is lost before it began.
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I am sorry Joan, but you are wrong. 10th to 16th in the Championship is not what we get season on season. During the past 40+ years, we have spent many of them in either the 3rd division (League One) or the fourth (League Two).

And I did write "so for me"...……...your thoughts are different, and of course I respect that. The Championship is probably the 5th or 6th strongest division in Europe, so nothing to be ashamed of if your club plays in that division...…….again, my thoughts, not asking you to agree with me.
 
Dirty Harry said:
For me, Bodin's absence being used to explain our current plight is ridiculous. He's average, and most of us know it. Suggesting that his return will suddenly get us out of this situation really is clutching at straws.
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It would be ridiculous if someone had actually written that, but no one did.
 
RVW said:
I am sorry Joan, but you are wrong. 10th to 16th in the Championship is not what we get season on season. During the past 40+ years, we have spent many of them in either the 3rd division (League One) or the fourth (League Two).

And I did write "so for me"...……...your thoughts are different, and of course I respect that. The Championship is probably the 5th or 6th strongest division in Europe, so nothing to be ashamed of if your club plays in that division...…….again, my thoughts, not asking you to agree with me.
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Sorry I didn’t claim that we finished 10th to 16th in any division at any time. I think you are missing my point. My point is the minute you accept we will win or achieve nothing thats exactly what will be delivered and the competition and sport have then gone. For me, you have to believe we can and we will, why the hell not, others have achieved our dream, otherwise it’s game over at the beginning of every season so why bother.

I agree though we think differently, and there is nothing wrong with that at all and, I equally respect your views.
 
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