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Chilvers over Wilson

Chilvers over Wilson

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Oof, the one thing that Claude has in plenty is PACE, and that is something that Chilvers just does not have, so often Davis could recover situations with his ability to run quickly, thats why I cant understand the lack of opportunity being given to IMHO our best centre back after Mawene.

Good point re Ledger, Alexander had a couple of serious "goes" at him, but his mobility is a major plus, his tackle in the 6 yard box when all arround him had gone awol was superb.
 
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I think Chilvers had a pretty solid game, 1 missed kick infront of goal, but dont remember him doing too badly. 🙂 Think Simmo will guide the lad nicely.
 
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Chilvers has improved with each game he has played. He is learning fast as was shown with the way he handled Hartson and Phillips when needed.
He does not have the pace of St ledger but he does read the game well and to me looks very much like a young version of Lucketti .
Last night he was very good and as I was very worried early on in the season
about how our young defence would handle prem players I am now filled with optimism.
 
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Yeh i know but what i was saying was why did he pick him over wilson when the over couple of games he was awful
 
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DezzieRichardson said:
Yeh i know but what i was saying was why did he pick him over wilson when the over couple of games he was awful
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Continuity , we were unbeaten in 4 league games before last night and because he is forming a partnership and understanding with SSL . Simpson obviously doesn't think he's been awful and I suspect he knows more about football than you . All entitled to our opinions though .
 
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I think you are all missing an important point re Chilvers. He is a left footed player who operates on that side of the defence where having confidence on your left is important. I remember when Simmo signed him he specifically mentioned this saying that naturally left footed players were hard to find. Wilson, St Leger and Mawene are all naturally right footed and playing them on the other side would be like putting square pegs in round holes.
 
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Mel Tottoh said:
Continuity , we were unbeaten in 4 league games before last night and because he is forming a partnership and understanding with SSL . Simpson obviously doesn't think he's been awful and I suspect he knows more about football than you . All entitled to our opinions though .
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This is a very similar situation to the past two seasons when we had Mawene, Davis and Lucketti competing for the 2 centre half positions. Kelvin Wilson will get his chance at some stage: it will be because of a injury (hopefully nothing serious!), loss of form or suspension to either St Ledger or Chilvers. Then it's time for Wilson to show what he's capable of! 🙂
 
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paintbox said:
I think you are all missing an important point re Chilvers. He is a left footed player who operates on that side of the defence where having confidence on your left is important. I remember when Simmo signed him he specifically mentioned this saying that naturally left footed players were hard to find. Wilson, St Leger and Mawene are all naturally right footed and playing them on the other side would be like putting square pegs in round holes.
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A very good point. It is a bonus to have a left-footed player as the left-sided central defender.
 
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The reason is simple...continuity. St.Ledger and Chilvers are playing every game together and forming some sort of understanding. The understanding between centre halves is the most critical on the pitch. They need to know each others game and be able to make decisions knowing what the other will do in tandem. Every successful team has two centre halves playing almost all season together.
As regards Chilvers as an individual I think it's hard not to agree that Wilson is a better player. He has a tremendous physique, good technique, agression in his play and true pace. Chilvers has come in due to Mawene's injury and to be fair has done a job. I'm afraid Wilson will just have to be patient.
 
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Hunter Lionheart said:
Not really. We never had that problem with Lucketti or Davis playing there.
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Maybe not, because Lucketti and Davis were so good and experienced. But it is an asset to have a left-footed defender as the left-sided central half, and now we have that in Liam Chilvers.
 
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prestongoddess said:
I think Chilvers played well today.
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If you call losing every single header to Hartson, crap distribution, no pace, caught out of position playing well, then the lad had a stormer!

Just not good enough for me, sorry.
 
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Mooney Magic said:
As regards Chilvers as an individual I think it's hard not to agree that Wilson is a better player. He has a tremendous physique, good technique, agression in his play and true pace. Chilvers has come in due to Mawene's injury and to be fair has done a job. I'm afraid Wilson will just have to be patient.
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It's also good to remember about Wilson that we have not seen him play centre half too much at the Championship level, haven't we. 😎 He played there very well a couple of times last season, but that was alongside MAwene/ Davis and in the best defensive unit of the whole league.

Now it's a totally different situation with our defence. We cannot really judge Wilson as a centre half unless we've seen him pay alongside St Ledger or Chilvers. That time will come at some stage, and then we'll be much wiser.
 
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Its all about who is the better Partnership.

Fact is Chilvers is older and has more first team football than Wilson, at a higher level too. We also dont know what has been tried in training and behind closed doors friendlies. Wilson may have more potential as a footballer, but maybe he is the furthest from being the finished article.

St. Ledger has been a revelation this year, but partnering him with Wilson may be too soon for both of them.
 
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Where_is_Big_George? said:
If you call losing every single header to Hartson, crap distribution, no pace, caught out of position playing well, then the lad had a stormer!

Just not good enough for me, sorry.
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Hartson wins headers against any CH you could mention - doesn't make them all crap.

I suppose that makes the guy marking DD a bag of spanners in your book as well.

Think about it.
 
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