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After getting a lot of flak on here for weeks, he (and SSL) gave an impressive display on Friday night I thought.

Never seems to be caught out of position, and makes good interceptions all the time. Doesn't seem to get rattled at all.

Some really excellent long range passing was a big bonus. Remember the one that dropped over the last defender and caught Nugent offside ?

Against Ellington he seemed to be caught for a pace a couple of times but thats about the only criticism I can make of his recent performances really. They really do have a tought act to follow but they ain't doing at all badly.
 
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Absolutely - the fact is that despite having lost our three best defenders from last season, though of course Mawene will be back, our defence is only one goal away from being joint best in the division. Moreover that is with two cenral defenders who had not played at this level previously. St Ledger has looked a class act from the start and now Chilvers is beginning to look more than just competent as well. Sure he is not as fast as some other players, but he is developing real authority. The way he chested down that header by a Barnsley player from a corner with about 15 minutes to go and then broke from defence before unleashing a long range pass was majestic.
 
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chilvers has impressed me ever since that mistake against wolves. his range of passing for a centre back who last season played in the 3rd tier of english football is phenomenal. him and st ledger are really starting to get an understanding together and that is shown in the fact we now have 2 clean sheets out of 3 games.

i wasn't chilvers' biggest fan at the start of the season but he has really come on. simmo has made 2 really good signings in chilvers and st ledger.
 
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All credit to the lad- I thought he looked unfit and out of his depth against Sheffield Wednesday, but he is being well coached, Carlo has resumed his verbal and physical command of the Penalty Area, and Chilvers is keeping things simple. Hence more clean sheets !
 
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lesfry said:
Carlo has resumed his verbal and physical command of the Penalty Area!
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Yes.. Carlo looks to be enjoying actually having to do some work after last season when he hardly had a shot to save.
 
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sliper said:
Yes.. Carlo looks to be enjoying actually haven't to do some work after last season when he hardly had a shot to save.
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Some on here last season were of the view "Carlo is a big headed tw*t. It is the defence in front of him that is good not him!" [I paraphrase, of course!]

I know you were not one Mr Slips, but i wonder if those who were are reflecting on their past view.
 
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I have to agree with everyone's comments.
The biggest compliment I could give him is that when he needs to hoof the ball into row Z - he does. However, when there's a break from defence, his range of passing is brilliant. Consistently found Simon Whalley in the first half against Barnsley, giving us a good spring from defence - albeit against 10 men.
Credit where credit's due: Chilvers and Paul Simpson both deserve a pat on the back.
 
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Chilvers must have given at least 4 or 5 cheap/sloppy free kicks away around the edge of his own box - not really what you want from your centre back.

Surely the idea is to clear danger not create it?
 
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duddits said:
Chilvers must have given at least 4 or 5 cheap/sloppy free kicks away around the edge of his own box - not really what you want from your centre back.

Surely the idea is to clear danger not create it?
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I'm not too sure about that. And I'm pretty sure most of the incidents you described were in the second half where, let's be fair, hardly any player covered themselves in glory. I also think (shock, horror) you have to give Barnsley credit!
I think sometimes it's far too easy to single out one person for criticism. I think Granddad (no mine, I hasten to add...) said - literally just minutes after the final whistle - that McKenna should be dropped!!!
St Ledger has looked dodgy sometimes - but half the fans think the sun shines out of his porthole...
That's why football is a great game - and a TEAM game.
 
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duddits said:
Chilvers must have given at least 4 or 5 cheap/sloppy free kicks away around the edge of his own box - not really what you want from your centre back.

Surely the idea is to clear danger not create it?
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As opposed to Claude Davis who we've recently sold for close to 3 million quid? Rather a free kick around the edge of the box than costing the club a chance of the Prem and £30mill, I say. 🙄
 
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dannypne7 said:
As opposed to Claude Davis who we've recently sold for close to 3 million quid? Rather a free kick around the edge of the box than costing the club a chance of the Prem and £30mill, I say. 🙄
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Quite...😱
 
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duddits said:
Chilvers must have given at least 4 or 5 cheap/sloppy free kicks away around the edge of his own box - not really what you want from your centre back
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A fair point, but as Ernest has pointed out, its not costing us. Its easy to put that down to luck, whereas it could possiblty be that we are developing yet another good defensive back line, with Chilvers being integral to it.
 
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having not seen him play before friday my first impressions where slow and clumsy, now if friday was an improvement on his earlier performances i dread to think what they were like!!!
 
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The lad obviously has ability, all he lack is pace. But if he had that he would still be at Arsenal.
 
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Both Centre half look good at times. BUT I lost count of the number of headers Barnsley won from corners, the ability to win the ball and clear it from set pieces is an essential element for any Centre half.
It hasn't cost us big time yet, but you can be sure other teams have noticed this chink in our defensive armoury. West Brom should have thrown crosses in but wanted to play itthrough us, Barnsley got it right on Friday and it almost paid off.
Dichio has been priceless in defence, and with a lesser keeper that doesn't dominate we will suffer. Like I said they look good in parts and will get better but we need better now.
 
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We lost most corners Barnsley put into our box. Very worrying.

I agree also that Chilvers gave away several free kicks around our penalty area - as against SL who I don't remember conceding any. I know Claude was prone to giving away daft free kicks , but I don't think quite as often. Personnally I prefer Wilson. Much quicker about the box.
 
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You critics should bear in mind Chilvers was brought in on a free only as understudy to Mawene.

He has stepped up when needed and done his best with a great attitude, you can`t ask more than that.

His fitness was a problem at first but he`s sorted that and the figures and facts show a really good job is being done.He quietly gets on with the job without fuss, unfortunately he has a hard act to follow after Davis and Mawene, just give him that time to develop and adjust to this league.

I understand we are still looking for cover in this area, watch this space.
 
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chilvers is not good enough, i lose count of the silly mistakes he makes, these mistakes in the main are usually recovered by a highly impressive st.ledger (whom has totally impressed me!!!)
 
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