Emil Riis

[SF]

I’d love to know how much we offered Riis to stay.

I understand the principle of having a wage cap, but if it results in you losing valuable players for nothing then it’s actually having a negative impact on the budget.

If we don’t sell Osmajic this window we should be offering him an extension on improved terms now, to avoid him going into his last year and walking away like Riis has.

Don't offer Lindsay a new deal, keep Whatmough for another 12 months as equally mediocre back up, and try harder to keep your top scorer who has value?

But, maybe he's just sick of it here, mid-table or worse, he'll easily get a much better move plus a very nice signing in fee and improved wage.

 

[Jack Daniels]

You are getting a bit defensive over osmajic scoring against Burnley reserves.

You said osmajic scored against the best defense in the league. He didn’t. Whether they would be good for us or not is completely irrelevant.

Osmajic has 9 league goals.
Riis has 12.
Fact.
End of discussion.

You omit that Osmajic missed 8 League Games (his own fault, granted) but Osmajic, as someone posted the other day, has a better Minutes : Goals ratio than Riis.

Bottom Line - Osmajic is better than Riis when you add up all of the attributes, however, do I think we'll replace Riis with better?. probably not.

 

[Preston Lad]

It’s a skewed stat. The most important competition is the league and Riis trumped him.

By 3 goals

Despite having 11 more league appearances than him

 

[Scoop]

I’d love to know how much we offered Riis to stay.

I understand the principle of having a wage cap, but if it results in you losing valuable players for nothing then it’s actually having a negative impact on the budget.

If we don’t sell Osmajic this window we should be offering him an extension on improved terms now, to avoid him going into his last year and walking away like Riis has.

The scoop is that he wouldn't even speak to us his agent told him he would get him a big move with big signing on fee.

 

[Bobbage]

End of discussion.

It isn't. Look, I can continue it.

See. Further sentences. Marvelous.

 

[Gordon Bennett]

The scoop is that he wouldn't even speak to us his agent told him he would get him a big move with big signing on fee.

I’m guessing it was more complicated with Riis as he had his serious injury around the time we should have been extending his contract. That is a really shitty attitude if true though.

With Osmajic, we should be extending his contract now - while he still has two years left on his current deal, rather than letting it run down to the last twelve months. I don’t know what wages he’s on, but I’d guess nowhere near what his current market value would dictate- and I also think he is going to keep improving.

 

[Thracia]

But, maybe he's just sick of it here, mid-table or worse, he'll easily get a much better move plus a very nice signing in fee and improved wage.

Yeah, this is an underpriced factor - some players want new challenges, new adventures every few years, different countries, different surroundings; others just want a steady job - doing the same thing every year in the same place with no progression doesn't faze them.

We as a club much prefer the latter type.

 

[Mr S]

I’m guessing it was more complicated with Riis as he had his serious injury around the time we should have been extending his contract. That is a really shitty attitude if true though.

With Osmajic, we should be extending his contract now - while he still has two years left on his current deal, rather than letting it run down to the last twelve months. I don’t know what wages he’s on, but I’d guess nowhere near what his current market value would dictate- and I also think he is going to keep improving.

Agreed

 

[PNE04]

By 3 goals

Despite having 11 more league appearances than him

And why is that?

 

[Scoop]

I’m guessing it was more complicated with Riis as he had his serious injury around the time we should have been extending his contract. That is a really shitty attitude if true though.

With Osmajic, we should be extending his contract now - while he still has two years left on his current deal, rather than letting it run down to the last twelve months. I don’t know what wages he’s on, but I’d guess nowhere near what his current market value would dictate- and I also think he is going to keep improving.

Just shite timing all round he was cut down when performing well and not the time to try and extend him in my opinion.

Osmo in absolute agreement if he would be open to signing but if he has had sniffs of moving to La Liga he might not want to put any potential bumps in the road to that deal. If he extends excellent if he doesn't he needs to be sold for a good number this summer.

 

[HunterLionheart]

He scored goals granted, but still one of the worst in the division for goals per minute though, and aside from that he literally had NOTHING else, couldn’t pass, couldn’t hold it up, didn’t bring anyone into play, didn’t link up well, couldn’t head, didn’t work the channels, didn’t offer anything, there were times he was subbed on and we instantly got put on the defensive because he couldn’t hold the ball up and conceded. as a ‘footballer’ he was utter wank. He had a powerful shot, that was it. You can mark this post he won’t end up anywhere better than us, and if he does he’ll be on the bench week after week, totally delusional if he thinks he’s better than us. Glad he’s gone tbh.

Eh?

Riis was 20th in the entire division for goals per 90. Osmajic was 18th.

Considering how shite we are for chance creation, that's incredibly good.

 

[Kathryn]

Also on the flip side. Riis actually did score against Burnley’s first team (not second string.) just a shame the linesman was blind as a bat.

That’s not fair. A bat would have detected it was onside.

 

[Scoop]

Hopefully Hecky has identified someone to link up play for Osmo as thats what we need. Riis and our Montenegrin never worked together and if Ozzy has a decent foil he could be quality next season.

 

[norfolk white]

Hopefully Hecky has identified someone to link up play for Osmo as thats what we need. Riis and our Montenegrin never worked together and if Ozzy has a decent foil he could be quality next season.

PH may have identified someone and passed the name/details on to PR but do you trust PR to pay the going rate or do you think he would try and get him for half the price and then try and half it again? We all know what a top notch negotiator he is

 

[Yeti]

PH may have identified someone and passed the name/details on to PR but do you trust PR to pay the going rate or do you think he would try and get him for half the price and then try and half it again? We all know what a top notch negotiator he is

To be fair to Peter you can’t accuse him of not paying the going rate. Look at his time at Leeds spent stupid money on transfers and wages way over the odds. The issue we have is that the budget is that small even he can’t pay the going rate for most of the managers targets. Even the Iversen signing while a free is probably costing a few hundred thousand in signing on fee which when you are after 10 players soon adds up

 

[norfolk white]

To be fair to Peter you can’t accuse him of not paying the going rate. Look at his time at Leeds spent stupid money on transfers and wages way over the odds. The issue we have is that the budget is that small even he can’t pay the going rate for most of the managers targets. Even the Iversen signing while a free is probably costing a few hundred thousand in signing on fee which when you are after 10 players soon adds up

Very true and he has started to do that here also, just look at the Okkels situation

 

[Henrys Cat]

I’d love to know how much we offered Riis to stay.

I understand the principle of having a wage cap, but if it results in you losing valuable players for nothing then it’s actually having a negative impact on the budget.

If we don’t sell Osmajic this window we should be offering him an extension on improved terms now, to avoid him going into his last year and walking away like Riis has.

I thought it was generally understood that both Riis and his agent had made it abundantly clear they wouldn't discuss anything regarding a new contract at North End. So in that sense, I don't think he was offered anything. although I'm pretty sure his agent would have been made aware of what could have been offered.

 

[WhiteRanger]

I think he's been on his way to Wilder for a long time, not worth his wage imho, donkey.

 

[Scoop]

PH may have identified someone and passed the name/details on to PR but do you trust PR to pay the going rate or do you think he would try and get him for half the price and then try and half it again? We all know what a top notch negotiator he is

Isn't the art of negotiating to get a lower price than advertised?

 

[Henrys Cat]

To be fair to Peter you can’t accuse him of not paying the going rate. Look at his time at Leeds spent stupid money on transfers and wages way over the odds. The issue we have is that the budget is that small even he can’t pay the going rate for most of the managers targets. Even the Iversen signing while a free is probably costing a few hundred thousand in signing on fee which when you are after 10 players soon adds up

There was the now infamous occasion when Leeds Utd were signing Seth Johnson from Derby in the late 1990's. Johnson and his agent had apparently decided they wouldn't accept less than £13,000 per week, even though he was supposedly earning £5k a week at Derby. On arrival in Ridsdales office at Elland Road, the Negotiator Supreme, Ridsdale apparently started the discussion by announcing "We wont' pay a penny more than £30,000 a week" The story goes that Johnson and his agent where so gobsmacked, that they looked completely shocked, Ridsdale thinking they were not going to accept, then offered bonus's totalling the wage to £37k per week. The player and his agent apparently left his office feeling like they'd won the lottery.