New Stand

[Albertan]

Re: New Stand

We only want the 4th side up to finish the ground, it will do nothing more for PNE than make the fans feel better about the ground.

It will do a bit more than that if we make the prem though won't it Oof?

There is a tremendous difference in revenue generated from 19 home games with a stadium that holds 24,500, than one that can only hold 19,000, right?

That exta 5,000 or so fans will probaly pay another 100,000 pounds or so per game (assuming we are close to capacity in the first place), so that would give PNE an extra 2 million pounds income from league games alone.

In short, the stand will pay for itself more or less if we can have 2/3 seasons in the prem.

 

[brianherron]

Re: New Stand

It will do a bit more than that if we make the prem though won't it Oof?

There is a tremendous difference in revenue generated from 19 home games with a stadium that holds 24,500, than one that can only hold 19,000, right?

That exta 5,000 or so fans will probaly pay another 100,000 pounds or so per game (assuming we are close to capacity in the first place), so that would give PNE an extra 2 million pounds income from league games alone.

In short, the stand will pay for itself more or less if we can have 2/3 seasons in the prem.

IF is the big word here:

IF we get promoted
IF we can get 24K+ fans
IF we can stay up for 2 - 3 years
IF the 5 year plan works
IF we can build it in time
................................................ it's all a bit iffy🙂

 

[dirk pnemouse]

Re: New Stand

Well dirk, it was enough in the late 50's when North End were as good as any other club in the land almost.............or are you another who chooses to ignore the FACTS OF THE SITUATION?

Take another look at the historical facts mate............during our last six seasons in the old div one when we had everything going for us including Tom Finney in the team (and no sky TV in those days for the stay aways to watch their football on) we averaged 22,830 at Deepdale. And in four of those seasons we were a top half of the division team, and in two of them finished in the top three.................😱 .

What makes you think things will be different this time around if we do make it into the prem when for almost a certainty, we will be in the bottom half of the division, if not the bottom half of the bottom half??????????????

I await your answer which preferably should be based on facts, not emotions or dreams.

Ilive in the now mate and i would rather wait till we get in the prem rather than judge a bunch of old stats from a guy who,s very name reminds me of negativity . If your not moaning on about our lack of support based on your outdated stats your giving us your old swan song were a small club , you should have that put on your gravestone mate .

Here lies albertan follower of a very small club , ps i told you not to build that stand ....bollocks just wait and see mate ....

 

[grandad t]

Re: New Stand

Great idea, loads of new empty seats that we do not need.

Did you think this one all by yourself or did a grown-up help you?

Have you noticed all the empty seats in the premiership now?We wont be on our own,if we added another tier,but let,s get there first

 

[crazy_pne]

Re: New Stand

It would be a strange investment to build a 2nd tier, I'm against the idea because im sure the money can be spent better elsewhere. For example, in the Youths perhaps?

Regards,
Dave.

 

[kc1968]

Re: New Stand

It will do a bit more than that if we make the prem though won't it Oof?

There is a tremendous difference in revenue generated from 19 home games with a stadium that holds 24,500, than one that can only hold 19,000, right?

That exta 5,000 or so fans will probaly pay another 100,000 pounds or so per game (assuming we are close to capacity in the first place), so that would give PNE an extra 2 million pounds income from league games alone.

In short, the stand will pay for itself more or less if we can have 2/3 seasons in the prem.

Sorry to be pedantic but we had a ground that held 21,500 before the Pavillion was closed for redevelopment. So your £2 million is more like £1.2 million.

 

[Albertan]

Re: New Stand

Ilive in the now mate and i would rather wait till we get in the prem rather than judge a bunch of old stats from a guy who,s very name reminds me of negativity . If your not moaning on about our lack of support based on your outdated stats your giving us your old swan song were a small club , you should have that put on your gravestone mate .

Here lies albertan follower of a very small club , ps i told you not to build that stand ....bollocks just wait and see mate ....

Well then dirk, if you live in the now as you say you will be aware that even though we are in one of the automatic promotion places currently, and have been for quite a few weeks now, we still can't get many more than 13,000 pne fans for home games can we? Using your idea, why don't you buy a house worth a million quid on the hope that one day you will be able to win the lottery and be able to afford it.

Also, who is moaning? Not me, and our lack of support isn't based on my outdated stats, it is based on the simple fact that only 13,000 Preston people can be bothered to turn out on a Saturday afternoon even though we are second in the division. It isn't the building of the stand I have a problem with at all, don't know where you get that idea from..............this discussion is about building a second tier which is unnecessary.

Are you blind or just plain stupid? If we only averaged 22,000+ in the golden years of Finney, we will not average more than 24,500 even if we did reach the prem, so why would we need a 32,000 capacity stadium..........for when we play Real Madrid in the Champions League perhaps...........😕 .

ps. why the name Albertan (from the Province of Alberta) reminds you of negativity only you know. Alberta is the most positive and forward moving Province in Canada, with one of the highest standards of living in THE WORLD.........it is full of energy and positivity, just like me!

 

[VancouverWhite]

Re: New Stand

Albertan, I fully agree with your argument on the stadium capacity.

I don't think anyone could reasonably dispute that Blackburn and Bolton have had similar attendances to North End's - at times when the teams are in the same league. They are currently both in the Premiership - average attendance around 21,000 and 23,000 respectively.

Rows of empty plastic seats will not attract new fans to Deepdale but Premiership football will. Any spare resources available should be given to Simpson - he deserves all the backing possible. If we need to extend the ground again to make room for visiting Champions League fans then we may need to re-consider.

HOWEVER, I can't let your errant claim regarding Alberta go without correction:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/04/eui.survey/index.html

Currently -17 degrees C???! Crikey, bring your milk in! It's 2-shirts cold in Alberta!

 

[Albertan]

Re: New Stand

Albertan, I fully agree with your argument on the stadium capacity.

I don't think anyone could reasonably dispute that Blackburn and Bolton have had similar attendances to North End's - at times when the teams are in the same league. They are currently both in the Premiership - average attendance around 21,000 and 23,000 respectively.

Rows of empty plastic seats will not attract new fans to Deepdale but Premiership football will. Any spare resources available should be given to Simpson - he deserves all the backing possible. If we need to extend the ground again to make room for visiting Champions League fans then we may need to re-consider.

HOWEVER, I can't let your errant claim regarding Alberta go without correction:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/04/eui.survey/index.html

Currently -17 degrees C???! Crikey, bring your milk in! It's 2-shirts cold in Alberta!

Is it still raining there, or is it just about to start again........🙂.

October 2005???????? And I get accused on here for posting old stats😕 .

Fair comment though Vancouver, I guess we are all proud of the places where we decide to live (other than those that reside in Burnley or Blackpool of course...🙂 ).

You think -17 degrees is cold, take a look at next week's forecast for Edmonton, I doubt the thermometers will get above -22 degrees all week!!!!!

I guess most people who comply those surveys don't even come to visit Edmonton with us:

a) being so far north, and

b) having the only 'international airport' that hardly has any international flight connections.

If you are ever in Edmonton let me know and we can get together for a beer, and glad you agree with my stance on the stadium capacity. If Tom Finney in his last six seasons or so could only attract 22,000+, I doubt we will average much more than that even if we were in the prem. Sure some games will be sell outs and some fans disappointed, but as pointed out a full stadium generates a better and much more intimidating atmosphere.

 

[noelpne]

Re: New Stand

Exactly, Paul Szacsky.

spot on.

Yes I can only echo that.

So long as we could throw it u between the end of the one season & the start of the following one.


BTW I note that Boltons Reebok capacity is less than 28 thou.

 

[Majestic]

Re: New Stand

There isn't enough room for a second tier in the new stand. It can't go any higher because the long cross beam is needed to hold up the roof, same as for the other stands. If we do build a two tiered stand, it would have to replace the TFS and the stadium would possibly end up looking like Elland Road of all places.

Have a listen to the interviews that Radio Lancashire did with Derek Shaw with regards to expansion of the stadium if needs be.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/lancashire/content/articles/2006/08/15/pne_audio_archive_0607.shtml