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One Step Back, Two Steps ...

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One Step Back, Two Steps ...

Poll Poll Would you take a relegation if it guaranteed new owners?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 6.2%

  • No

    Votes: 76 93.8%
  • Total voters
    81
SF said:
Or the flip of the coin works and we become a club with an actual can.

Unfortunately there is no sign up button.

Fair arguments but I wouldn't care personally. The bollocks under Westley was more entertaining and memorable than our current existence.
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Memorable - yes
Entertaining - absolutely not. There is nothing entertaining about seeing a bunch of lower league plodders try to muster a win against the likes of bury and Carlisle.

Now on our day we can beat sides like Leeds, Norwich etc. Our star signings are mads and Liam Millar. Back then our star signing was Stuart beavon.
 
RibbletonWhite2.0 said:
Memorable - yes
Entertaining - absolutely not. There is nothing entertaining about seeing a bunch of lower league plodders try to muster a win against the likes of bury and Carlisle.

Now on our day we can beat sides like Leeds, Norwich etc. Our star signings are mads and Liam Millar. Back then our star signing was Stuart beavon.
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I guess my main point is that I'll be laughing and commiserating over that period in ten/ twenty years. The last 9 years won't get a mention.
 
Its not the owners so much as the dude in charge of things they put their faith in. As I put in another thread, regardless of what you may personally feel about them, still happy to have them versus the Chansiri's of the world.

Never want us to get relegated, that kind of thinking just doesn't make any sense to me regardless of the hypothetical nature of it or not.
 
Spaceballs said:
Its not the owners so much as the dude in charge of things they put their faith in. As I put in another thread, regardless of what you may personally feel about them, still happy to have them versus the Chansiri's of the world.

Never want us to get relegated, that kind of thinking just doesn't make any sense to me regardless of the hypothetical nature of it or not.
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If they didn't approve of everything Ridsdale did, then he wouldn't be here.

Relegation is shit I agree. But in this make-belief scenario, there's a slight chance of something different for the first time since the BAXI years.
 
Revitt wants what she sees as “her” money back so the asking price is insane. Wouldn’t change if we got relegated so we’d be even less likely to attract a buyer.

We are a well established Champ club but unlikely to ever go up or down in the medium term future. Would be nice to give the cups a crack to generate some excitement but we never see these as a priority.
 
SF said:
If they didn't approve of everything Ridsdale did, then he wouldn't be here.

Relegation is shit I agree. But in this make-belief scenario, there's a slight chance of something different for the first time since the BAXI years.
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Yes obviously he has some kind of hold over them or they would have gotten rid of him by now. Maybe he works for cheap and they just don't want to take the time to find someone better? Don't rightly know but yes I think we can all agree need someone else in that position.

And I know just a hypothetical thing, but again getting relegated would not necessarily mean the Hemmings would sell even then. Price would in essence be cheaper sure but then on the flip side of that, prospective owners with deep pockers would probably prefer a club higher up the pyramid, jmo. And the loss of attendance from some fair weather fans would not look good either.
 
Spaceballs said:
Yes obviously he has some kind of hold over them or they would have gotten rid of him by now. Maybe he works for cheap and they just don't want to take the time to find someone better? Don't rightly know but yes I think we can all agree need someone else in that position.

And I know just a hypothetical thing, but again getting relegated would not necessarily mean the Hemmings would sell even then. Price would in essence be cheaper sure but then on the flip side of that, prospective owners with deep pockers would probably prefer a club higher up the pyramid, jmo. And the loss of attendance from some fair weather fans would not look good either.
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All true.

I've always had a suspicion that the reason we've never been on the market is because the Hemmings don't actually lose money on us in the grand scheme of things, via very clever accounting.

Just a theory, nothing to back it up.
 
I don't actually think the current ownership can be criticised too harshly. Over the past few seasons I've seen:

-Emphasis on signing young/foreign talent who have then become key players in the first team, spending a few bob in the process
-More fan engagement in real terms, rather than talking a good game (actually fixing the roof, creating the fan zone and making continued improvements)
-Peter coming out with less shite than usual

Personally for me the ownership seem to have taken on board a lot of the criticisms of the Trev era. Next season will however be a defining moment for them though. We need to keep hold of Browney and sort out the embarrassing lack of depth our squad has. Peter has said money will be available once the COVID year falls off the accounts; I'm not one to trust in Peter but I'll wait and see how it pans out.
 
Jack Daniels said:
An absolute No.

For a start, we would not be getting the current home support of 15k fans and it is those 15k fans that we have to retain and build upon.

We have retained them for 1 season (23/24) after the initial growth spurt in 22/23.

Foolish to risk losing this new found support.
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JD you and everyone knows that the increase in ST sales was down to dropping the price to £280 and nothing else, it will be interesting to see ST prices when they go on sale again in the coming weeks, added to the often turgid shit offered on a regular basis at home keeping the extra fans will require another price freeze.
 
shabbagaz said:
It has been mentioned before that Revitt is the one that's not really 'interested', so wouldn't mind her stepping down from the trust.... won't happen though for various reasons.

I don't have much of an issue with Craig but Peter can do one.

I certainly wouldn't take relegation for new ownership (largely due to the financial impact) although can understand your reasons for doing so.
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I'm in the same camp as you Shabbs, especially where Craig is concerned.
 
billymac said:
JD you and everyone knows that the increase in ST sales was down to dropping the price to £280 and nothing else, it will be interesting to see ST prices when they go on sale again in the coming weeks, added to the often turgid shit offered on a regular basis at home keeping the extra fans will require another price freeze.
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I am not denying that the price of £280 played its role.

People however have bought into it, twice.

The job now is to keep these people.

Ideally, a couple of prominent signings before the ST Deadline will help any potential waverers or indeed newbies to come on board.

I'll be buying my usual seat.

Only employing someone like Critchley would have me seriously having 2nd thoughts.
 
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