Robinson

[Dick Dastardly]

A football club is ever evolving with players changing every season. Callum has really stepped up this year to be our main man but after he’s gone there’ll be another one. Our main asset is our squad depth imo. Even when it was weakened by Robbo’s injury before we were against Boro, we rose to the challenge and outplayed them. At the moment he is our prize asset but things change quickly and everyone has a price.

 

[ernest]

My guess would be that no-one is going to sign Robinson while he is injured and as far as I can tell he is due back after the window closes probably in February. I certainly do not want Robinson to leave but a serious offer from Bournemouth might be £15m plus that young striker of theirs we have supposedly been monitoring.

 

[simo]

Totally agree, how will the club sell next season ST's if we have sold our main Strikers in 3 windows. It shows signs that we still are a selling club and there's no ambition from the owner.

The same way we did this season, and last season, and the season before that and the season before that.

There's nothing changing here. Players come, players go, the way its always been.

You can either waste time worrying about it or sit back and take in whatever comes our way.

 

[giro]

Not sure the club can justify selling our top scorer for the second January running, whilst still trying to sell season tickets on the basis that we're going for the Premier League. Wouldn't put it past this owner, though.

It's not about the club justifying selling him. It's about money and the opportunity of Premiership football.
If a decent offer is made and he wants to go. There's not a lot the club can do about it.

Similarly the same may happen with Pearson.

As I said previously, I hope I'm wrong.

 

[PNEroulette]

It's become pretty clear this season that CR has become the second best player at the club. Is he good enough to be effective in the PL? not sure, he's
still improving and has a great attitude. if he went it would be a sad loss and would miss watching him play. We won't be able to replace him as he has
become too good. We may be able to take the blow ,adapt and survive in the division. The other problem is it may lead to others leaving as it shows a lack of ambition at the club.
No one man is bigger than the club, but Pearson is very close and whilst he's still at the club there is still hope.

 

[sedgwick__7]

It's not about the club justifying selling him. It's about money and the opportunity of Premiership football.
If a decent offer is made and he wants to go. There's not a lot the club can do about it.

Similarly the same may happen with Pearson.

As I said previously, I hope I'm wrong.

What the club/owner can do is hold their nerve and reject offers, especially with 18 months left on his contract.

I generally agree about the opportunity of Premier League football, but whilst we're 4 points off the relegation zone, selling our best players again can wait until the summer imho.

 

[diggerb]

The same way we did this season, and last season, and the season before that and the season before that.

There's nothing changing here. Players come, players go, the way its always been.

You can either waste time worrying about it or sit back and take in whatever comes our way.

Or, you can think, bugger this i am heartily sick of the absolute lack of ambition and stop attending, which many have already done.
Its been happening for donkeys years yes, but we have an owner worth circa 950 million, who also expressed a desire to push for the next level. FRUSTRATION is not the word !!!

 

[SF]

Or, you can think, bugger this i am heartily sick of the absolute lack of ambition and stop attending, which many have already done.
Its been happening for donkeys years yes, but we have an owner worth circa 950 million, who also expressed a desire to push for the next level. FRUSTRATION is not the word !!!

Dunno about that, our current average is the highest its been for eleven years.

We've got a core support which is pretty consistent, can't see that wavering too much, ambition or no ambition.

If I turned up during the Westley days then i'll be turning up if we sell Callum Robinson, i've made my bed.

 

[simo]

Or, you can think, bugger this i am heartily sick of the absolute lack of ambition and stop attending, which many have already done.
Its been happening for donkeys years yes, but we have an owner worth circa 950 million, who also expressed a desire to push for the next level. FRUSTRATION is not the word !!!

Some probably have, that's up to them, they can't be blamed. At the same time new people turn up.

Average attendances since we came back up:
13035
12607
13774
13754 (so far)

There's a tendency to think that every new sale, new decision we don't like is "the final straw". That simply isn't the case for everyone.

 

[Worthington]

On podcast 21 following the Rovers annihilation, Tommy B is being interviewed. They get onto talking about injuries and players taking responsibility. At 19:23 he says "It's down to us to pick up that mantle now that Callum's left and really show what we can do."

I'm assuming that he meant "now that Callum's injured." But you shouldn't really assume should you.

Nice One.

 

[WADSH]

Some probably have, that's up to them, they can't be blamed. At the same time new people turn up.

Average attendances since we came back up:
13035
12607
13774
13754 (so far)

There's a tendency to think that every new sale, new decision we don't like is "the final straw". That simply isn't the case for everyone.

I assume those figures represent the whole crowd; I wonder what the sales to home fans come to during all those seasons. Does anyone know?

 

[simo]

I assume those figures represent the whole crowd; I wonder what the sales to home fans come to during all those seasons. Does anyone know?

I don't know where that info might be.

I also found this which is interesting reading for anyone who worries about crowds going up/down or thinks we should/could be getting more on the games.

http://www.prestonnorthend-mad.co.uk/feat/ed22/attendances_350233/index.shtml

The most significant shifts are from 59/60 (Finney retires) and 60/61 (we subsequently get relegated). Everything else is short term fluctuation influenced by what division we happen to be in and how well we're going. At present we're getting pretty much what we got in the 60s/70s.

So people get disillusioned, frustrated, fed-up. Yet we still get broadly the same amount of people coming to watch. Whilst we stay the same on the pitch we can expect to stay pretty much the same in the stands.

 

[buckshawwhite]

My guess would be that no-one is going to sign Robinson while he is injured and as far as I can tell he is due back after the window closes probably in February. I certainly do not want Robinson to leave but a serious offer from Bournemouth might be £15m plus that young striker of theirs we have supposedly been monitoring.

Sam Surridge... How about we show some intent? Keep Robinson & get Surridge in January. I actually think Robinson is a better prospect & will one day soon command a higher fee than Hugill. Lets keep him until the end of this season , see what bids come in & reassess

 

[ernest]

Sam Surridge... How about we show some intent? Keep Robinson & get Surridge in January. I actually think Robinson is a better prospect & will one day soon command a higher fee than Hugill. Lets keep him until the end of this season , see what bids come in & reassess

As I made clear I would not want us to sell Robinson - I was just kite flying about what a realistic bid might be given that he has plenty of time left on his contract.

 

[John T]

Well I don’t like to make the point, or say I told you when the inevitable happens. I but suspect the usual ‘softening up’ as started, as I said before it’s very familiar.
First there are the rumours in the press, then we hear the Players is unhappy not to be given the chance, the reluctantly the Club agrees and finally the money ‘vanishes into The Owners pocket’ who if he is a good mood will release a small amount for a replacement most of us have never heard about. Sorry folks that’s the way it will be, and not much will change while the present Owner is in position. Remember the one that failed to go through to Middlesbrough, ultimately the cost the then Manager his job

 

[California_PNE]

Well I don’t like to make the point, or say I told you when the inevitable happens. I but suspect the usual ‘softening up’ as started, as I said before it’s very familiar.
First there are the rumours in the press, then we hear the Players is unhappy not to be given the chance, the reluctantly the Club agrees and finally the money ‘vanishes into The Owners pocket’ who if he is a good mood will release a small amount for a replacement most of us have never heard about. Sorry folks that’s the way it will be, and not much will change while the present Owner is in position. Remember the one that failed to go through to Middlesbrough, ultimately the cost the then Manager his job

🙂 No ambiguity as ever from Mr t

It's a testing period for the nobbers no doubt, hopefully Alex gets some financial backing in January

 

[PROF!]

How are you now prof, have you recovered from your op etc.?

Still recovering but getting stronger. Will be monitored over the next few years by the cancer specialists at RPH. Keeping positive. Taking no notice of the prognosis I could be dead in next 5 years. Main problem is now my right eye. RPH trying to save my sight - ongoing laser treatment. Left eye is OK although it has to overwork to compensate. Thanks for asking.

 

[PNEroulette]

Still recovering but getting stronger. Will be monitored over the next few years by the cancer specialists at RPH. Keeping positive. Taking no notice of the prognosis I could be dead in next 5 years. Main problem is now my right eye. RPH trying to save my sight - ongoing laser treatment. Left eye is OK although it has to overwork to compensate. Thanks for asking.

All the best with the recovery PROF

 

[PROF!]

All the best with the recovery PROF

Thanks.

As to Robinson I hope he stays. He has shown he has potential. I also hope that Bournemouth is too far away for him to consider now that he has friends here and a crowd that likes him. A few things do worry me though as they were not fully answered in this thread. Was it just PNE players that came back injured from Ireland? Why do some of our players feel the need to go to a private gym - is there something lacking in our training schedules? Something that makes injury more likely? I have long been critical of the muscle warm ups just prior to a match starting, especially critical if its a cold day when a slightly extended warm up procedure is needed. Years ago at karate we used to start with the neck muscles, work down the body and finish 15 mins later with the toes! In all the years I did karate (1.5 hrs per session 3 sessions a week and no half time break) I never saw anyone suffer cramp, hamstrings etc. Are PNE players warming up correctly? I have my doubts.