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Why has it gone wrong?

Why has it gone wrong?

MrHodgeheg123 said:
AN has got as much out of this squad as any other manager could/would. Mr Hemmings needs to back him properly in the transfer market, get him what is required ( and we all know what that is) in order to make a serious tilt at promotion.
If we continue as we are, the same thing's going to happen season after season which is flatter to deceive, have the usual crisis somewhere during the season that sees us win fuck all for about a third of it and end up somewhere upper mid table if we're lucky. Inevitably, there will come a time when performances drop off for longer and we find ourselves at the wrong end of the table fighting and perhaps losing the fight against relegation.
Everyone can see this, why can't the owner?
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Yes the writing was on the wall before PNE got relegated , could have quite possibly been dragged into a dog fight ?

Remember someone saying he regretted not going into Cohen's Chemist for something to settle his stomach / bowels - it was getting a bit close .

Think there was a goal by Darren Carter that came as a relief , I certainly heard it on Blackpool Road ! .

Later on it was inevitable , all the singing and cheering from the ' wrong end ' of Skeffy / Lowthorpe Rd

Sorry but PNE have been sussed out , these opposition clubs pay their key staff to do just that , even more eloquently than some of the posters !
 
Kathryn said:
Is this 5 from 9 subs a permanent change or is it just for this post lockdown period?
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Post lockdown only. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see 7 subs increased in the near future. I think in Italy they have 11 subs.
 
Henry Weston said:
I think a major factor is what seems to be an ever increasing obsession by the manager to concentrate on combatting our opponents supposed strengths/set-up rather than playing to our own strengths. This leads to negativity in our play, stifles our players and adversely affects their confidence.
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100% AGREE!!
Would just add ...also leads to strikers who don't know if they are playing, & what position they will be asked to play in! And a manager who now has no idea who his best team is! Who at this critical end of the season looks desperately trying to find it!
 
Kathryn said:
Maybe the extra substitutions are making matters worse. Is this 5 from 9 subs a permanent change or is it just for this post lockdown period?
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Seen something today that 5 subs might stay next season. And that Klopp likes the drinks breaks and also wants them to stay. I'd start by putting the water on the opposite side of the pitch to the dug outs. The Brentford manager last night had a tactics board out on the pitch...

I think they're purposely trying to stop people wanting to attend...
 
paddysr said:
Guy is a control freak
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To be fair he spent years not being a control freak and look where it got him!

That said, it sound like there is level of micromanagement where he could well do to step back and let his employees do what they are paid to do. But I'd still expect him to sign off on all contracts - they're our greatest outgoing by far.
 
Tino said:
Seen something today that 5 subs might stay next season. And that Klopp likes the drinks breaks and also wants them to stay. I'd start by putting the water on the opposite side of the pitch to the dug outs. The Brentford manager last night had a tactics board out on the pitch...

I think they're purposely trying to stop people wanting to attend...
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It's for Sky.

How long before they start dropping 20-second adverts in during substitutions?

And they'll definitely have them in the drinks breaks soon.

Game's gone, lads. 🙁
 
NOBBY STILES said:
100% AGREE!!
Would just add ...also leads to strikers who don't know if they are playing, & what position they will be asked to play in! And a manager who now has no idea who his best team is! Who at this critical end of the season looks desperately trying to find it!
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Spot on Nobby.
 
Staffordwhite said:
It's for Sky.

How long before they start dropping 20-second adverts in during substitutions?

And they'll definitely have them in the drinks breaks soon.

Game's gone, lads. 🙁
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Yup, the drinks breaks will be sponsored by Gatorade or something.... Horrific. At least the refs do seem to be adding the time on properly however it's the constant disruption to the games I don't like.
 
Tino said:
Yup, the drinks breaks will be sponsored by Gatorade or something.... Horrific. At least the refs do seem to be adding the time on properly however it's the constant disruption to the games I don't like.
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If sports science clearly shows that the rehydration break materially improves H&S of players, I could live with it. But coaching should not be allowed.

If it IS going to become a permanent feature - an official stoppage, I would like them to stop the match clock. I would also like there to be a 60 second countdown clock with the referee strictly enforcing the restart.
 
Regardless said:
If sports science clearly shows that the rehydration break materially improves H&S of players, I could live with it. But coaching should not be allowed.

If it IS going to become a permanent feature - an official stoppage, I would like them to stop the match clock. I would also like there to be a 60 second countdown clock with the referee strictly enforcing the restart.
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With the amount of stoppages, corners, times the physio is on the pitch there are already enough breaks for the players to get a drink. In January I would guess the breaks might actually increase the risk of injury with them stood around being barked at for 2 minutes.
 
JohnPNE said:
No we can't. But there is one common denominator in all this.
And it isn't the manager.
Our best three players have been sold last three seasons. And reinvested about 10% of the money into replacement. In Robinson's case we didn't reinvest any of it until we brought in Sinclair.
There is one man I want out of the club and it isn't the manager.
AN has his faults and is at fault for some things but it isn't 50/50 as some people say.
We need a chairman who will actually back and support the manager for once.
Give AN the tools and we will be in the play offs at least. But he won't because he doesn't care about this proud football club. And this is why we will never ever get promoted to the prem. Until we change our ways.
And I'm not asking for 5/10 million pounds. All I'm asking is that when we sell our main players we invest a substantial amount. And then after that fingers can be pointed at the manager.
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I remember TH when back in 74 he decided along with the board to sell the captain John Bird to Newcastle for £100,000 with Bruce coming back to North End included. This they done without the managers knowledge. This led to the manager resigning, Sir Bobby Charlton. Same as now money first.
 
Lambo said:
I remember TH when back in 74 he decided along with the board to sell the captain John Bird to Newcastle for £100,000 with Bruce coming back to North End included. This they done without the managers knowledge. This led to the manager resigning, Sir Bobby Charlton. Same as now money first.
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That’s in the North End souls book which in half way through. Have to say one of the dominant themes is North End building a good side, getting close, and then selling a player or sacking/losing a manager and the inevitable slide down the table/league. Seems we don’t learn.
 
pne_monster said:
That’s in the North End souls book which in half way through. Have to say one of the dominant themes is North End building a good side, getting close, and then selling a player or sacking/losing a manager and the inevitable slide down the table/league. Seems we don’t learn.
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Yes, it was a bit bizarre to hear Brucie talking about Uncle Trev’s involvement even back then in the book. Just goes to show how long he’s been around. 🙂

Still, it wasn’t the first Trev reference in NES2 - Eric Jones talks about him as a schoolboy footballer back in the 1940s and then . . . 🤓
 
Staffordwhite said:
Yes, it was a bit bizarre to hear Brucie talking about Uncle Trev’s involvement even back then in the book. Just goes to show how long he’s been around. 🙂

Still, it wasn’t the first Trev reference in NES2 - Eric Jones talks about him as a schoolboy footballer back in the 1940s and then . . . 🤓
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Yeah spotted that!
 
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