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Matchday Thread - PNE V Carlisle (26/12/11) MOTM Poll Added

Matchday Thread - PNE V Carlisle (26/12/11) MOTM Poll Added

Poll Poll Matchday Thread - PNE V Carlisle (26/12/11) MOTM Poll Added

  • Stuckmann

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Gray

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • McLaughlin

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Morgan

    Votes: 3 11.5%

  • McCombe

    Votes: 1 3.8%

  • Coutts

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Barton

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Mayor

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Parry*

    Votes: 1 3.8%

  • Doyle

    Votes: 15 57.7%

  • Hume**

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Tsoumou*

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Douglas**

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    26
dirk pnemouse said:
Turn it round no but get the basics right in defence absolutely , there not kids mate they have about 40-50 years between them at the back and were shipping goals for fun , we got out of jail at the Dons last week this week i think its going to be too muc to turn around . Big grezzer fan but we cant keep shipping goals mate , 3-3
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Remember one of the first games under Moyes was 3-0 home defeat to Carlisle.
 
Carlisle fans must be absolutely gutted..

2 points thrown away in injury time !!

Looking at the match stats i will gladly take the 1 point and move on to the next game..

Crowd V Sheff Weds - approx 16k ??
 
It would appear that we have more of a fighting spirit now which has been shown in both games since PB left. It'll be a very tough game on Saturday though.

Thanks to everyone for your comments and for link info, much appreciated.
 
dirk pnemouse said:
Turn it round no but get the basics right in defence absolutely , there not kids mate they have about 40-50 years between them at the back and were shipping goals for fun , we got out of jail at the Dons last week this week i think its going to be too muc to turn around . Big grezzer fan but we cant keep shipping goals mate , 3-3
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3 goals conceded today Mouse, one of which was a penalty and one took a huge deflection giving the keeper no chance.

I take it you never noticed the deflection?
 
I noticed that we have gone back to using the bench nearer the AKTE. Craig Brown swapped benches because he said that opposition managers were influencing the linesman on that side.
 
Sounds like we did OK with an improvised team and a still less than fully match-fit Hume. We will have Smith back to give us a balanced back line for the next game and I presume we will also probably start with Hume and Tsoumou upfront. My report from the game said that thiough he missed a chance Tsoumou actually played quite well after he came on.
 
hhE should have started with him mate soon as i saw the team sheet i new we were fucked so to get a draw out of it is big plus. Can't believ they left hUme up fron on his own when he aint 100 per cent. Ok the Tusomo could not hot a barn door from five yards but hes a bir presence up there and gives us strength up there massive mistake not to play him and all this was said before the game!
 
I thought it was a good entertaining game and the result was justified. Neither side deserved to lose but Barton should have been subbed and made to forfeit half his pay for his poor display and lack of effort. Sumo should have been up front from the start not lazy Barton.
 
ernest said:
Sounds like we did OK with an improvised team and a still less than fully match-fit Hume. We will have Smith back to give us a balanced back line for the next game and I presume we will also probably start with Hume and Tsoumou upfront. My report from the game said that thiough he missed a chance Tsoumou actually played quite well after he came on.
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He played okay.. put himself about.. during our late rally. Looks like the lad has got a thing about "missing good chances" a bit like Danny Dichio a few seasons back. But I thought he looked quite comfortable in possession.

Saturday I'd play McLaughlin in the centre instead of Barton..

I thought McLaughlin looks a quality player.. he was left cruelly exposed when Parry went walk about for their second. McL seems to be a better midfielder than a defender and enjoys getting forward so I would play him as an attacking midfielder.

I was a bit disappointed with Parry.. who didn't do much apart from his penalty.
For me Barton, Mayor and Parry are luxury players.. you can afford to play one or two but certainly not all three.
Mayor was pick of the bunch..

They had so much possession for long periods it was untrue.. we didn't seem to be able to find our own players.

I'd say we were lucky to get a point..

I don't think the managerial duo got the selection right.. starting with one striker for a home game ?
Midfield never functioned properly.. and Barton was unable to open things up which is the role he is supposed to be playing because he isn't a striker. He has a decent eye and gets it positionally right.. but is far too easily robbed of possession for my liking. Time and again he lost possession and they came at us.

Back four and Stuckmann kept us in it.. although I admit we had the better chances. They always looked wobbly when we went forward.

Weird sort of game.. we could have won 4-2.. but also easily should have lost by the same score.
Again I don't like it when new people take charge and we start shipping goals.

I'd have Daley in the side before Parry or Barton.. at least the lad creates chances
 
Great game from Doyle and Gray. Doyle was so unlucky to hit 2 posts with that great shot. Coutts was poor by his standards except for his brilliant cross for the last goal.

Although Barton needs to work harder both he and Hume were moving into space well and losing their markers. Our biggest problem was giving the ball away cheaply. The main culprits were the young ones - McClaughlin, Mayor and Barton.

A draw was a fair result despite the referee, Tsoumou's miss, Doyle hitting the post and their deflected goal. Bad defending from Parry for their second goal. Zoko was superb. What a second goal!
 
Thanks Sliper. I've thought for a while that with Gray establishing himself at right-back it would be useful to find another role for McLaughlin, who is too talented to be left fallow. I think he might make a right-sided 'wing-half', a more defensive alternative to Mayor or Daley. As for Barton there seem to be a consensus that he did very little today and since I wasn't there I can't comment directly. But, in the lad's favour, he was playing behind a lone striker - Hume - who was not fully fit and, in any case, is not suited to that role which needs a big Jon Parkin type of player who can hold the ball up. Barton is a centre midfielder who needs to play off the shoulder of a big, aggressive partner. Play him in that role with two strikers in front of him and we might see him start to fulfil his potential.

As for the formation today there was really no alternative to playing McLaughlin at left-back but Alexander and Unsworth obviously got it wrong by starting with Barton and not Tsoumou, who would at least have given Hume a strike partner. But equally I am sure that had either Mellor or Proctor been fit then one of them would have started with Hume. Where was Daley though? Is he fit? If so why was he not even on the bench?

For the next match we will, I trust, reinstate Smith at left-back and - in the presumed absence of Mellor and Proctor - start with Hume and Tsoumou upfront. If Daley is still absent I wouldn't mind seeing the young lad Zibaka on the bench - he strikes me as a great prospect.

Come the opening of the transfer windown then - apart from keeping Coutts and Hume - our priorities obviously have to be getting Doyle at least until the end of the season and bringing in a centre forward.
 
I thought Carlisle were a one man team - Zoko. Why did they take him off? Not too much mention on here about Doyle's magnificent drive which hit both posts. Some atrocious refereeing decisions. Hume and Coutts ran their socks off. Coutts refused the ball late on as he was absolutely spent. Alright - by no means a top rate performance but credit where it's due.
I thought their support was absolutely abysmal - you could hear a pin drop apart from when they scored - pretty disappointing really.
Having said all this I would still love BD to come in as manager - not Grezzworths time ....yet imho.
 
We can take some positives out of the game for sure but it was by no means a great performance.

Defensively we looked a little shaky and some work is still needed but maybe having Steven Smith back in at LB will restore the balance.

Nathan Doyle was once again and his strike that hit both post deserved a goal. Coutts once again played his socks off when he has the ball at his feet he looks like he can make things happen.

Barton once again frustrated me with his complete lack of work rate. He has the potential to be a very good player but until he asserts himself on the game and up's his work rate i would rather he was kept out of the side.

Hume despite being nowhere near 100% fit ran himself into the ground for the team put himself about and deserved his goal. Tsoumou once again missed a sitter needs some work on his finishing but he impressed with his work rate when he came on.

Delighted for Jamie Douglas came on and got his goal although he didn't know too much about it, he made an impact and you can't ask for much more.
 
pnemad25 said:
We can take some positives out of the game for sure but it was by no means a great performance.

Defensively we looked a little shaky and some work is still needed but maybe having Steven Smith back in at LB will restore the balance.

Nathan Doyle was once again and his strike that hit both post deserved a goal. Coutts once again played his socks off when he has the ball at his feet he looks like he can make things happen.

Barton once again frustrated me with his complete lack of work rate. He has the potential to be a very good player but until he asserts himself on the game and up's his work rate i would rather he was kept out of the side.

Hume despite being nowhere near 100% fit ran himself into the ground for the team put himself about and deserved his goal. Tsoumou once again missed a sitter needs some work on his finishing but he impressed with his work rate when he came on.

Delighted for Jamie Douglas came on and got his goal although he didn't know too much about it, he made an impact and you can't ask for much more.
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Thought that McLaughlin had a decent game at LB but for me if he's fit Smith should be filling that position.

Surprised to see he wasn't even on the bench yesterday.
 
that's a problem going back to Mr Sunseekers era ....players picking up too many cards ...could be frustration , could be disorganisation and poor decisions , panic even
 
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