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Alan Spavin

Alan Spavin

Indeed - Alex 'The Black Prince' Dawson is probably my all-time favourite PNE player. I can remember the exact moment I read of his passing - I was checking things on my phone while sat in a pub called The Chandos at the bottom of St Martin's Lane just above Trafalgar Square - though I prefer to remember his header for our second goal in the 2-2 draw at Bolton in the Fourth Round of the FA Cup in 64 I really don't think I have ever seen a ball headed so hard. Doug Holden has sadly also since passed from this life so only Dave 'Tug' Wilson is left of the Cup Final team of that year.
That Bolton game was my first away game (with my Dad)...I use the same phrase in recall, 'Dawson headed a ball harder than most can hit one'...wonderful memory.

Chandos is one of my favourite pubs, there before the Swindon game, another fond memory...
 
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Best era for me too as a young lad who started going to Deepdale around 1964.
Been one or two decent "episodes", but the one with the likes of Kelly, Ross and Spavin, and all was,for me the best.
Ah well........... old age comes quickly.
My debut season too 63/64, loved that team, Alex Dawson was a big hero too. He headed with such power it was magnificent. Seldom seen a player since who was as dangerous with his kead as his feet. The emergence of youg Howarsd Kendall as well and the skill of Tug Wison on the wing. Happy times
 
I've never heard any PNE player get as much stick from the Deepdale Paddocks as Spav did. Ever.
I swear some Dickheads used to go on just to boo him.
As with a lot of things i think it was only a minority but the Terraces down the side - i.e. The paddocks - where closer to the pitch then and for some reason individual voices seemed to carry out more.
I think Spav was widely appreciated by most but did have some vocal critics.
Even then some people wouldn't have recognised a footballer if they fell over one!!
 
My claim to fame is that I played against Alan Spavin. I was in my school football team in Morecambe Balmoral Road School. He was in the teachers team, I think this was a yearly thing. Don't know if he went to the school in his youth. He was shit against us lol. My best memory was his free kick goal against Rotherham in 69
 
That Bolton game was my first away game (with my Dad)...I use the same phrase in recall, 'Dawson headed a ball harder than most can hit one'...wonderful memory.

Chandos is one of my favourite pubs, there before the Swindon game, another fond memory...
Chandos Pub appeared in a YouTube episode Joolz Tours I was watching . Spooky
 
Spavin wasn’t always a PNE hero . I remember after 64 he had an up and down relationship with the fans . Not blessed with pace he caused a lot of groans as he seemed so slow . But in the Third Division Championship team he came into his own. The Paddock where a particularly vocal group .. I can remember Jimmy McIllmoyle getting a mouthful that brought those around to fits of laughter . He’d been having a bad run but one bit of good play brought the echoing call of ‘Well done McIllmoyle ……….long pause …. you shithead !!!” but Spavin won them over and that double wall free kick in the last game of the season clinched legend status at the end the season PNE had Ball at the Top Rank just about every player and Alan Ball senior attended . I won a bottle of gin in the raffle and met Spavin in the bogs . Had no shame when I told him what a great player he was a genius as he dribbled on his boots and smilingly accepted the compliment . .. they don’t make players like Spav anymore
 
Very much agree with that Schemer

Him and Lawton in Mid-field and the 'Black Prince' (That’s Dawson for the uneducated) and in the (pre snowflake era we were allowed to call him that and he revelled in the title) up top, were a very good combination, good enough to beat Leeds’s who went on to be a real Division 1 side (equal of today’s Prem) and do well in Europe
Looking back if we hadn't gone to Wembley that season and got distracted, I reckon we would have gone up
I always thought that Wembley distracted us and cost us promotion that season .
 
I always thought that Wembley distracted us and cost us promotion that season .
The other question is why did it go downhill relatively quickly in the remainder of the 60s.
The main spine of that team was still there for at least another couple of seasons after that and showed what they could do in the cup against Tottenham in 66. League form deteriorated during the rest of that decade though culminating in relegation.
 
The other question is why did it go downhill relatively quickly in the remainder of the 60s.
The main spine of that team was still there for at least another couple of seasons after that and showed what they could do in the cup against Tottenham in 66. League form deteriorated during the rest of that decade though culminating in relegation.
Wasn’t that the time of the Harrison ( wonderloaf ) directorship and after Milne was sacked they brought in the fashionably labelled, for the time, track suit manager , Bobby Seith ..who just wasn’t very good . I seem to remember that was the beginning of the slide, it could also have a lot to do with 64 being the tail end of the maximum wage and players became more mercenary in their demands ( not that they didn’t deserve being better treated than surfs) it’s a long time and there’s been a lot of memorable players and managers but the one thing that has been consistent (that is , on the odd moment we’ve been in with a chance ) is that the board , the owner or something else have all managed to fail to show up when it mattered and have failed to take us over the line .
 
Fair analysis. I know some on here get very frustrated with all this chat and reflection on the past (it will pass though). However, for many on here still it's relevant to our lifetimes...whether I'm looking through rose-coloured spectacles or not, that team still remains the best I've seen in our famous white shirt. The Baxi outfit has come the nearest I suppose. It's galling that the team I first watched at a primary school age, still retain that status. I unfortunately still remember my Dad and his friends saying, 'don't worry Bobby we'll soon be back in t' top league.' Well, 63 years later (not that I'm counting) I'm still waiting...
 
Am sure I went to that game, think it was a 28,000 sell out, may be wrong but I think it was when we used to form a wall of our own in front of the opposition wall at free kicks, sure he scored one from a set piece like that at the town end .
The idea of a wall comprised of our players in front of a defensive wall was tried several times that season but didn't find success until that final glorious game witnessed by a full house. It was a novel idea at the time.
 
Fair analysis. I know some on here get very frustrated with all this chat and reflection on the past (it will pass though). However, for many on here still it's relevant to our lifetimes...whether I'm looking through rose-coloured spectacles or not, that team still remains the best I've seen in our famous white shirt. The Baxi outfit has come the nearest I suppose. It's galling that the team I first watched at a primary school age, still retain that status. I unfortunately still remember my Dad and his friends saying, 'don't worry Bobby we'll soon be back in t' top league.' Well, 63 years later (not that I'm counting) I'm still waiting...
Thing is there’s not that closeness to the club now as there was then . I used to drink myself stupid with the lads from PNE ‘A’team and reserves up the top Rank and the Bull and Royal .?I actually ended up one night at George Lyalls place chatting in awe til 2:00 am as well as regularly running into Alex Dawson when he was buying his ciggies in the newsagent next to Cuffs .. I sat on the cinders for a packed FA cup replay and was soaked to the skin at Villa for the semi Final and I cried on Skevvie Road when we were relegated to the third for the first time and that madness that was the 9 nil versus Cardiff and the wall falling down against United and the 29 corners we had when we beat Spurs int cup and my last game in England before I came to Australia , a home defeat to Blackpool which was the first game I saw on Australian TV over fifty years ago .. i could go on .. the Saturday Post my mum sent every week without faith til she couldn’t any more or the lengths I went to to get the result of that last game of the season when Nobby stiles got us promoted , I was convinced we had to win it. Did we ?
 
Thing is there’s not that closeness to the club now as there was then . I used to drink myself stupid with the lads from PNE ‘A’team and reserves up the top Rank and the Bull and Royal .?I actually ended up one night at George Lyalls place chatting in awe til 2:00 am as well as regularly running into Alex Dawson when he was buying his ciggies in the newsagent next to Cuffs .. I sat on the cinders for a packed FA cup replay and was soaked to the skin at Villa for the semi Final and I cried on Skevvie Road when we were relegated to the third for the first time and that madness that was the 9 nil versus Cardiff and the wall falling down against United and the 29 corners we had when we beat Spurs int cup and my last game in England before I came to Australia , a home defeat to Blackpool which was the first game I saw on Australian TV over fifty years ago .. i could go on .. the Saturday Post my mum sent every week without faith til she couldn’t any more or the lengths I went to to get the result of that last game of the season when Nobby stiles got us promoted , I was convinced we had to win it. Did we ?
From memory we drew our last game of the Nobby Stiles promotion season which left Peterborough needing to beat Wrexham ( played 2 days later) but they could only draw and we went up on goal difference.
 
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