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AN out.

AN out.

Northender1881-exactly. Some ‘uts wrong. Interesting paragraph about GK’s -
To Liberation’s quip - having an opinion is what this forum is about. Commentating on fans’ contribution hardly encourages wider opinion. Maybe you don’t want to see it. We are all upset tonight, and if we didn’t we wouldn’t post.....
 
Northender1881-exactly. Some ‘uts wrong. Interesting paragraph about GK’s -
To Liberation’s quip - having an opinion is what this forum is about. Commentating on fans’ contribution hardly encourages wider opinion. Maybe you don’t want to see it. We are all upset tonight, and if we didn’t we wouldn’t post.....

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Just been reading this from when he was sacked at Norwich.

http://www.pinkun.com/norwich-city/alex-neil-sacked-so-where-did-it-all-go-wrong-1-4926909

The last line struck a chord with me as i've wondered if it is a case of 'losing the dressing room' which has caused our plummeting form:

Worth posting that in full, reading it is a little freaky TBH.

Selling the likes of Bradley Johnson and maybe even Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe. Then Martin Olsson became the first of January’s crown jewels to go, soon followed by Robbie Brady – and that doesn’t sit well with a squad who could perhaps see the writing on the wall from a different angle to the rest of us.

Bringing in Steven Naismith – that hasn’t really worked – and signing Sergi Canos but not playing him, Alex Pritchard, who we have seen in fits and starts, allowing James Maddison to go out on loan, ditto Harry Toffolo… at a time when with Olsson on the way and Robbie Brady suspended, he had to play Steven Whittaker at left back at Rotherham. That is not good planning.

Signing too many midfielders when in fact the young ones were already on the books.

And unless there is a back story we really ought to know, not doing anything decisive with Kyle Lafferty. Either sell him or play him.

Not knowing who his best goalkeeper is – trying to improve that position didn’t work when he brought in Michael McGovern, who is simply not better than John Ruddy. Then he dropped Ruddy. Twice.

Missing out on transfer targets perhaps? Ross McCormack, Britt Assombalonga, Dwight Gayle were all fancied, but none came. You wonder why.

Inexperience: From Hamilton to Norwich is an awful long way for a manager and his assistant.

Both must have thought they’d picked up Aladdin’s magic skills, but the job was too big.

And not only was Neil inexperienced, he wasn’t much older than some of his playing staff.

I heard this week of players suggesting Neil’s man management was not up to scratch. If that is the case, then senior players would have jumped all over the rocking ship.

When Paul Lambert was in charge, the squad could look at a great ex-player, with a European champions’ medal in his cabinet.

With Neil, they had a former Mansfield and Barnsley player who was perhaps no better than any of them – certainly not when it came to playing the game.

No wonder there were reports of some senior players believing he wasn’t up to scratch.
 
Disappointed with the result but after attending today I’m honestly more positive than previously. There are signs of life. We were excellent for a long spell in that 2nd half and bossed a good Sheff Utd side after a dreadful 1st half.

I don’t think we’re too far off a recovery looking at that.

AN has to show some bottle and bin Clarke off though. His jogging on the 1st goal is a disgrace and he along with a few other experienced players are currently letting us down.

Good post.

I honestly don't think we played too badly at all. We're just getting undone at the back far too easily.
 
If he starts Barkhuizen ahead of Barker again against West Brom I’m sure there’ll be plenty of fans wanting him out before the game even kicks off. We played well once Barker and Johnson came on today, so let’s hope he finally knows his best 11.


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There's a big difference though between knowing his best 11 and being motivated to use it.
 
Good post.

I honestly don't think we played too badly at all. We're just getting undone at the back far too easily.
I must have watched a different game today, we played well for 10 minutes while utd thought they had it won. Once we equalised they cut us open again.

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Good post.

I honestly don't think we played too badly at all. We're just getting undone at the back far too easily.

We were getting a right hammering all first half though.

Do you not think that we managed to get a foothold only when Sheff Utd were two up and took their foot off the gas?

We soon reverted to type once we were back in the game didn't we.

Not encouraged by that at all.
 
Worth posting that in full, reading it is a little freaky TBH.

Just seen the highlights .Plain shocking abysmal awareness for the first and third goals.His tactics and selection are now pretty woeful. Last season our away form was what our rock was built on,now we just look like fodder as soon as a team runs at us.I don't believe he has the ability to turn round our dismal start to the campaign his, body language reminds me of a turkey in mid Dec.
I believe to carry on as we are if no massive improvement after Midd boro and WBA,it will be a kindness to let the butchers knife fall.Who next if this happens.well my choice would be Micheal Appelton
 
We were getting a right hammering all first half though.

Do you not think that we managed to get a foothold only when Sheff Utd were two up and took their foot off the gas?

We soon reverted to type once we were back in the game didn't we.

Not encouraged by that at all.

We weren't getting a right hammering. They had more possession but did nothing with it and weren't really threatening our goal. They scored in the 36th minute with their 1st shot on target.

The way some are going on, it's like we faced wave after wave of attacks with Sheff Utd peppering our goal.

I know they can be misleading but, on this occasion, the stats mirror my opinion of the game. They were marginally better but we were shambolic at the back.
 
Just seen the highlights .Plain shocking abysmal awareness for the first and third goals.His tactics and selection are now pretty woeful. Last season our away form was what our rock was built on,now we just look like fodder as soon as a team runs at us.I don't believe he has the ability to turn round our dismal start to the campaign his, body language reminds me of a turkey in mid Dec.
I believe to carry on as we are if no massive improvement after Midd boro and WBA,it will be a kindness to let the butchers knife fall.Who next if this happens.well my choice would be Micheal Appelton

I think we need to be a little charitable and give him a chance with more of his assumed first team available (i.e. Maguire). For now its obvious he has no clue what will work and what won't with a key, effective forward missing but if he can actually get the players available to fit his preferred formation (which we know can be pretty effective) then he may be able to turn it round.

If we get to the late November and things are still all over the place then pot him, get someone new in, and back them in January.
 
As much as I still have issues with the owner & lack of backing, the manager should be doing better, doesn’t have a clue what his best team is, too loyal to certain players, we’ve forgotten how to defend, 9 against in 4 games!

His comments both at the forum and after games are deeply concerning and whilst I like the bloke I think he’s no idea at present what to do to turn things around.


I’m not campaigning for him to be booted out as I don’t think anyone else decent would come onlynot to be supported by the billionaire owner however, give the start and shambolic nature of the way we are losing games he couldn’t complain if he got sacked!

Ultimately though this stems from the Isle of Man and until his attitude changes or if he leaves a we will never truly progress.
 
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We weren't getting a right hammering. They had more possession but did nothing with it and weren't really threatening our goal. They scored in the 36th minute with their 1st shot on target.

The way some are going on, it's like we faced wave after wave of attacks with Sheff Utd peppering our goal.

I know they can be misleading but, on this occasion, the stats mirror my opinion of the game. They were marginally better but we were shambolic at the back.

We were according to the commentary I listened to.

They were virtually encamped in our half and it was simply a matter of time before they took the lead.

We held out for 35 minutes - woopie do!

Did you feel we were unlucky losers?
 
He probably won't be potted this week as I doubt that PR/TH haven't got a cheap alternative lined up. Also a couple of suspended/injured players will be returning soon and they will see how things progress then. Whether this is the right course of action I don't know but TH won't want to pay AN off and give a new manager money in the next transfer window (which the next manager will demand before taking the job)
 
I think we need to be a little charitable and give him a chance with more of his assumed first team available (i.e. Maguire). For now its obvious he has no clue what will work and what won't with a key, effective forward missing but if he can actually get the players available to fit his preferred formation (which we know can be pretty effective) then he may be able to turn it round.

If we get to the late November and things are still all over the place then pot him, get someone new in, and back them in January.

By the time Maguire is back and available we could be sat at the bottom of the table and well adrift of 2nd bottom if performances continue as they have up to now ?
 
Disappointed with the result but after attending today I’m honestly more positive than previously. There are signs of life. We were excellent for a long spell in that 2nd half and bossed a good Sheff Utd side after a dreadful 1st half.

I don’t think we’re too far off a recovery looking at that.

AN has to show some bottle and bin Clarke off though. His jogging on the 1st goal is a disgrace and he along with a few other experienced players are currently letting us down.

They were two up when we had a decent period and lost intensity thinking they had it won. Yes we showed character but they won it again as soon as they stepped back on it
 
They were two up when we had a decent period and lost intensity thinking they had it won. Yes we showed character but they won it again as soon as they stepped back on it

A harsh assessment IMO. It’s a poor result and we are bottom for a reason but we scored because we made changes, built our way back into the game and got on top of them.

We deserve at least some credit for that. The game didn’t just switch on and off at Sheff Utd’s wishes. We managed to turn the tide away at a quality outfit in SUFC.

We were done at the end by a very simple pass which wasn’t read by experienced defenders. SUFC weren’t exactly all over us.
 
It's no wonder he doesn't know his best 11 as he doesn't have a out and out striker who can hold the ball up. He's hamstrung by the owner not buying a replacement for Hugill for 9 months!
He's trying to get a team to gel without one and it's been a nightmare start that with Maquire would have been better I guess but still would be a struggle.
I said at the start of the season that we needed a centre half, a right back and a forward to join the first team. We didn't get them and I believe it's the owners fault.
 
It's no wonder he doesn't know his best 11 as he doesn't have a out and out striker who can hold the ball up. He's hamstrung by the owner not buying a replacement for Hugill for 9 months!
He's trying to get a team to gel without one and it's been a nightmare start that with Maquire would have been better I guess but still would be a struggle.
I said at the start of the season that we needed a centre half, a right back and a forward to join the first team. We didn't get them and I believe it's the owners fault.

The fact we were chasing the game and had a centre forward on the bench , who stayed on the bench says it all.
 
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