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Looking at our bench for attacking options last night was soul destroying

I also commented last night maybe it’s time to give Maguire a few games

Says a lot when I’m saying a player who I’ve posted as finished at this level for quite some time should be brought on .

Absolute shambles.
 
I was quite impressed with Lowe's pragmatism last night. I worried when he arrived promising free flowing attacking football - we'd get murdered trying to do that with these players. Fortunately it seems it was all bullshit and bluster. Either that or he's cut his cloth accordingly with the players and budget available.
I think he'll keep us up but judging from last night, it's going to be a hell of a hard watch.
 
Is Mikey O'Neill not a striker? One of the reasons for a slimmed down squad is to give the young players a chance. None of them seem to be making headway at breaking through. If O'Neill isn't good enough to play at the moment with the competition he has up front, then we're in big trouble
 
pne1881 said:
Posted this before but why not give Mikey O'Neill a go?

He can't do much worse.
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Did he not come on for a while against Brum and didn’t really look up to much. I wouldn’t be opposed to giving him more time, even a start but I think it’s looking more likely Maguire will be getting those opportunities ahead of him.
 
baldnobber said:
I was quite impressed with Lowe's pragmatism last night. I worried when he arrived promising free flowing attacking football - we'd get murdered trying to do that with these players. Fortunately it seems it was all bullshit and bluster. Either that or he's cut his cloth accordingly with the players and budget available.
I think he'll keep us up but judging from last night, it's going to be a hell of a hard watch.
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We played arguably the best team in the league, we have outplayed a fair few teams this season with some good football but like the dingles last night couldn’t break them down. Wouldn’t lose sleep over it.
 
Staffordwhite said:
True, but if your business needs a van and a trailer and your boss gives you £20,000 - you go and buy a car and a trailer for £20,000.

You don't buy a trailer for £20,000 and then tell the customer there's nothing left for the van you need to pull it.

Customer (ie. us): 'Well, that's not going to get the job done.'

Worker (ie. Ridsdale): 'Don't blame me, I didn't set the budget . . .' 😒
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Or in our case, spend a month asking to borrow a car before deciding at the 11th hour that the car offered is a "knobhead".
 
Pne30 said:
Did he not come on for a while against Brum and didn’t really look up to much. I wouldn’t be opposed to giving him more time, even a start but I think it’s looking more likely Maguire will be getting those opportunities ahead of him.
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Maybe he isn't up to much but unless he gets a few games with a decent amount of time on the pitch we're never gonna know.

I'd sooner give him a go than Evans or Maguire TBH.
 
Pennyhome said:
Looking at our bench for attacking options last night was soul destroying

I also commented last night maybe it’s time to give Maguire a few games

Says a lot when I’m saying a player who I’ve posted as finished at this level for quite some time should be brought on .

Absolute shambles.
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You can put Ched into that category as well.
 
Aitch said:
Is Mikey O'Neill not a striker? One of the reasons for a slimmed down squad is to give the young players a chance. None of them seem to be making headway at breaking through. If O'Neill isn't good enough to play at the moment with the competition he has up front, then we're in big trouble
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I just don't think he's good enough; at the moment anyway.

It does seem pointless having him in the squad if he's not going to play any games. Surely its far more beneficial getting him out and playing games. Aaron is having a right good time at Alty. Get him a loan like that.
 
Walton said:
I seem to remember debates about we have no leaders on the pitch.

Maybe Parrott is right, maybe some players aren’t following instructions .

Maybe he is making the runs and we don’t have a midfield creator who can spot the runs and make the passes.

Maybe Parrott is doing his job and dragging defenders out of position and other players aren’t exploiting the gaps.

I suppose that there are two sides to every story.
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I mean . . . DJ turned in that performance while wearing the captain's armband last night. In a local derby.

Jesus. He played like he thought it was an open training session. 😳

Not just that he was invisible as a 'leader' (he just isn't one) but on the one occasion 'Our Most Creative Player' had the chance to thread Parrott in, he delayed and delayed and eventually pinged the ball at him at 100mph.

He's started the season like a guy who knows he won't be here next year.

A fit and firing DJ is arguably our best player; the disinterested stroller we saw last night is a liability.

Browne did well when he came on and has the spirit required, but he's another quiet one.

Whiteman needs to be captain, but given the state of the squad I can see why Lowe doesn't want to rock the boat.

Let's face it, the manager has been shafted, just like the rest of us. 🙁
 
Warton PNE said:
I just don't think he's good enough; at the moment anyway.

It does seem pointless having him in the squad if he's not going to play any games. Surely its far more beneficial getting him out and playing games. Aaron is having a right good time at Alty. Get him a loan like that.
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He's hardly played at all for the 1st team so based on what?

I'm not saying he is or isn't ready, I'm just saying given that Evans / Maguire are the alternatives why not give him a go.
 
The team is full of fight but devoid of creativity. The fault is not with the strikers - it would make very little difference who we had upfront at the moment - but the midfield, which all too often cannot keep possession and on the occasions when it does cannot find the pass that will create a chance. Probably the best we can hope for at the moment is to keep in touch with the play-off places and then make the signings we need to make a proper play-off push - that is not an impossible scenario. But if Parrott could somehow get a goal - and remember the one that was disallowed against Birmingham was actually valid - then we might see a different player. A bit of freshening up this week-end is required - probably a return for Hughes even though Cunningham has been an able deputy and a start for Fernandez at the expense of Brady. Otherwise Potts and probably Whiteman deserve to keep their places and so I would say does McCann who made some good interceptions last night - I presume he was subbed to avoid the possibility of another booking and sending-off. Whether Browne, Johnson or Ledson get the other slot is for RL to decide. Upfront well there is absolutely no point starting Evans - he is only effective as a final 20 minutes sub - so either we continue with Parrott and Riis or maybe as last night slot Browne in behind Riis. Maguire... might the training regime RL has introduced have given just an extra bit of sharpness. Maybe but I would not be against giving O'Neill a start - he has the talent and there is only one way he will gain the experience.
 
Warton PNE said:
I just don't think he's good enough; at the moment anyway.

It does seem pointless having him in the squad if he's not going to play any games. Surely its far more beneficial getting him out and playing games. Aaron is having a right good time at Alty. Get him a loan like that.
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Presumably O'Neill was kept around and not loaned out while Maguire was injured.
 
Staffordwhite said:
I mean . . . DJ turned in that performance while wearing the captain's armband last night. In a local derby.

Jesus. He played like he thought it was an open training session. 😳

Not just that he was invisible as a 'leader' (he just isn't one) but on the one occasion 'Our Most Creative Player' had the chance to thread Parrott in, he delayed and delayed and eventually pinged the ball at him at 100mph.

He's started the season like a guy who knows he won't be here next year.

A fit and firing DJ is arguably our best player; the disinterested stroller we saw last night is a liability.

Browne did well when he came on and has the spirit required, but he's another quiet one.

Whiteman needs to be captain, but given the state of the squad I can see why Lowe doesn't want to rock the boat.

Let's face it, the manager has been shafted, just like the rest of us. 🙁
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Not to single him out as he wasn't the only one but DJ was completely anonymous last night - as captain, in a local derby, live on Sky.
 
Warton PNE said:
I just don't think he's good enough; at the moment anyway.

It does seem pointless having him in the squad if he's not going to play any games. Surely its far more beneficial getting him out and playing games. Aaron is having a right good time at Alty. Get him a loan like that.
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Think the idea is to bring him on for the last 10 or 15 mins of a game when we’re 2 or 3 nil up 🤔
 
ernest said:
The team is full of fight but devoid of creativity. The fault is not with the strikers - it would make very little difference who we had upfront at the moment - but the midfield, which all too often cannot keep possession and on the occasions when it does cannot find the pass that will create a chance. Probably the best we can hope for at the moment is to keep in touch with the play-off places and then make the signings we need to make a proper play-off push - that is not an impossible scenario. But if Parrott could somehow get a goal - and remember the one that was disallowed against Birmingham was actually valid - then we might see a different player. A bit of freshening up this week-end is required - probably a return for Hughes even though Cunningham has been an able deputy and a start for Fernandez at the expense of Brady. Otherwise Potts and probably Whiteman deserve to keep their places and so I would say does McCann who made some good interceptions last night - I presume he was subbed to avoid the possibility of another booking and sending-off. Whether Browne, Johnson or Ledson get the other slot is for RL to decide. Upfront well there is absolutely no point starting Evans - he is only effective as a final 20 minutes sub - so either we continue with Parrott and Riis or maybe as last night slot Browne in behind Riis. Maguire... might the training regime RL has introduced have given just an extra bit of sharpness. Maybe but I would not be against giving O'Neill a start - he has the talent and there is only one way he will gain the experience.
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I've read this a few times that Parrot could be a different player once he gets a goal.

That may well be true but how long does he get?

What we have at the moment is another Maguire i.e. runs around a lot but ultimately isn't a goal threat & there's probably some truth in the theory that Maguire is actually better than Parrot at holding the ball up & bringing others into play.
 
For what its worth right now you could play a front 2 of Anthony Elding and Aaron Brown and we would still look the same. Last night made my head hurt, I thought the players had more about them than that? Apart from the keeper, defence and the cameo from Browne we were so poor to a man. Fernandes has to start now, his body language and hustle put the rest of the attacking players to great shame, DJ has to drop to the bench, Potts has no competition and no attacking threat at all.

Its all a mess! Many thanks to the powers that be for this squad that is supposed to compete this year. The quicker the club sells and we see the back of the likes of PR the better. There was no pride in that performance last night! Thank god we have Lindsay and Storey 🤯
 
Ryan Lowe
Wasn't backed in the transfer market and we all know we needed at least two more players
But if we were all fed up with AN/ FM stubborn tactics & boring defensively minded football
Are things much better with RL?
Yes he has managed to get the fans on board & get a feel good factor and some of our performances especially away have been good to watch. Rotherham at home was an entertaining draw.
But we are still a defensively minded team
we have good players but they look like they are struggling to play a system they can't play.
He insists on playing five at back but we don't see much effective wing back play.
Robby Brady's high crosses in box are wasted on our strikers
Taking Daniel Johnson off for Chef Evans is another example of a player playing in the wrong position asking DJ to play as a striker is a waste of a good player
Yes we have a great goal keeper & defence
but there is no link up between defence & midfield at moment playing long balls to Parrot & Risse again is asking a player to do what he can't do.
I like RL but at moment he hasn't got the balance of the team right.

If I'm fed up with anything it is seeing quality players warm our bench ( Anthony Gordon Alvaro Fernandez for eg) while we watch performances like last night's.

AF has to start and RL has to find a way to keep the defensive play alongside some good attacking intent and yes find a way to score some goals
 
pne1881 said:
I've read this a few times that Parrot could be a different player once he gets a goal.

That may well be true but how long does he get?

What we have at the moment is another Maguire i.e. runs around a lot but ultimately isn't a goal threat & there's probably some truth in the theory that Maguire is actually better than Parrot at holding the ball up & bringing others into play.
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He got a goal against Huddersfield and I'm still waiting for him to kick on.
 
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