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jaymo said:
being a play off game after the euphoria of sunday, I expected more PNE fans to be on to be honest.

anyone with half a brain can see the ticket selling wasnt run brilliantly this week, enough to keep the extra 2k from not attending? im not sure, but when the club is only applying common sense after theres been a bit of a furore on a messageboard, theres a bit of a problem IMO.
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Who says it's down to the messageboard? This messageboard has a massive ego.
Who are the fictional 2k?
Anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence/or 1 mate with a passing interest in PNE could have got a ticket for tonight.
Anyone with half a brain can see it wasn't run that badly - who seriously couldn't get a ticket?

Just because you expected more fans doesn't mean they actually exist - I wish they did🙁
 
Also, how many has the credit crunch affected that would normaly have gone on? Some may only be able to afford one game and prefer to go the Bramall Lane or even save for a Final ticket should we get their. And it looks as if it isn't just our club that didn't sell out Scunny had only six and a half thousand for their play-off game tonight.

Those that are moaning about the attendance were iether moaning a) for moaning sake or b) because they were disapointed and frustrated with tonight's result.
 
norfolk white said:
Also, how many has the credit crunch affected that would normaly have gone on? Some may only be able to afford one game and prefer to go the Bramall Lane or even save for a Final ticket should we get their. And it looks as if it isn't just our club that didn't sell out Scunny had only six and a half thousand for their play-off game tonight.

Those that are moaning about the attendance were iether moaning a) for moaning sake or b) because they were disapointed and frustrated with tonight's result.
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I agree-and let's face it, if Sheff Utd had sold out we'd have been over 20,000 and everyone would have been happy. Apparently, they took around 7,000 to Palace, expecting to clinch automatic promotion, so it's not surprising they didn't sell out-especially with it being on Sky.
 
Voldemort said:
Is Irvine a tactical genius ? We will now see at Bramall Lane whether he is prepared to catch Blackwell unawares by unleashing Mayor on the right wing. Either that or if the choice is Sedgwick then let's just play with 10 men by leaving him out ! The spirit generated within a 10 man team would far outweigh the absence of Sedgwick.
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Why do you and your type take only a matter of a couple of hours after a (potentially) disappointing result to appear on here to launch criticisms but do not appear for a day or two at least after a decent result against QPR. Why do you so love the negativity? There is something distinctly odd, and not a little disturbing, about it.

I personally agree that one or two mistakes were made with the ticketing policy, and the club need to take stock and learn. I think they will. However one of my bleats was the allocation of extra seats to the away fans and this ended up a potential masterstroke as SU were playing to visibly empty seats and we would not have sold them anyway. All in all getting 20k on with such a poor turn out from Sheff Utd was not bad at all for a televised match.

Our crowd was fantastic tonight and selling the extra 2k home seats would not have made a massive difference.

Lots of players - including Sedgwick, Wallace, Mc Kenna had off days. But the crave to play Mayor must surely be one of a total madman. I have never seen him play - I suspect Voldemort has seen little also.

Playing him at Bramall lane would be akin to John Becks decision to play Squires at Wenbley vs Wycombe - only about 25 times worse.
 
Why do we never approach Mr Voldemort to be our manager/chairman/local god?

He obviously knows everything about running a football club and has proven since the days of Sean Devine that he has a better footballing brain than Mr Gray, Mr Peters, Mr Moyes, Mr Shaw, Mr Brown, Mr Davies, Mr Simpson and Mr Irvine.

Why an earth isn't he Preston's version of that Carlisle bloke (Knighton?) is beyond me.
 
Voldemort said:
A real balls up by the club because they didn't release the tickets for general sale soon enough. The usual suspects however don't like asking such questions because they believe the "professionals" know best. Yeah sure guys. It's apparent they don't and because of their inept management tonight wasn't a sell out when it should have been.

And if anyone uses "cost" as an excuse then with TV dosh being paid on the night why the hell didn't they reduce prices in order to guarantee a sell out ?

The crowd did their bit tonight but neither Irvine nor his players repaid that support. It was a re-run of the Blackpool game. We were sceond best and I'm laughing my head off at those fans criticising Sheff.Utd's style of play. Tonight they played the football and they did it well while we were reduced to a team of carthorses whose only abiity was to lump the ball long and high to Parkin. Woeful Mr.Irvine. You well and truly blew it.
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At least it made your day, Sonny Jim.
 
manatwork said:
Who says it's down to the messageboard? This messageboard has a massive ego.
Who are the fictional 2k?
Anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence/or 1 mate with a passing interest in PNE could have got a ticket for tonight.
Anyone with half a brain can see it wasn't run that badly - who seriously couldn't get a ticket?

Just because you expected more fans doesn't mean they actually exist - I wish they did🙁
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listen, there was no talk of then ever going on general sale until there was a bit of a kick off about it on here, people said they couldnt get tickets for friends/family members who wanted to go on because we were only allowing one per myPNE card holder. People said they couldnt get a ticket because they werent on the database at all.

then the system is changed and they are put on general sale.

Now, these are facts. You can choose to interpret them how you want, you can believe that the club always planned to put them on general sale if you like. I look at the previous form of the club when it comes to selling tickets, ana I choose to believe they got it wrong and only decided to put them on general when they realised that the system they'd put into place wasnt going to help it being a sell out. They changed it too late.

This messageboard has an ego, FFS get real.

People are now saying they know people who couldnt get tickets, its your choice not to believe them. So maybe this 2k are fictional, I dont know. All I know is, I expected more PNE fans to make the effort to attend a play off match with a load of buzz around it then an end of season match that was likely to mean nothing, and that people are sayign they have mates or whatever who couldnt get tickets or maybe couldnt be assed trying to get tickets again after they'd been turned away once.
 
AndySaville,

Yuri et al is our only hope. I keep asking him and his well connected friends to get a takeover planned. He bottles this at every ask !

He might be going to takeover Stockport as they are a cheaper option and he could be the Manager. I look forward to Stalingrad grasping the nettle.

Ray Burns

Ps If all goes wrong on monday, lets wait for his I told you so !
 
Voldemort said:
Did I not hear it correctly, were there only 19,000 on ? If so how could the official PNE website announce "there are only a few hundred tickets left in the Finney stand " ?

Has our club completely and utterly screwed up because where I was sat in the Town End there were quite a few empty seats.

Just how can we get 18.200 on for QPR and only 19,000 on for a PO game when the prize is Wembley and possibly £50 million (although not after tonight as Irvine blew it with his tactics and truly inpet high ball game).
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You moaning miserable fucking knobcheese. Go and watch Milton Keynes Dons
 
jaymo said:
listen, there was no talk of then ever going on general sale until there was a bit of a kick off about it on here, people said they couldnt get tickets for friends/family members who wanted to go on because we were only allowing one per myPNE card holder. People said they couldnt get a ticket because they werent on the database at all.

then the system is changed and they are put on general sale.

Now, these are facts. You can choose to interpret them how you want, you can believe that the club always planned to put them on general sale if you like. I look at the previous form of the club when it comes to selling tickets, ana I choose to believe they got it wrong and only decided to put them on general when they realised that the system they'd put into place wasnt going to help it being a sell out. They changed it too late.

This messageboard has an ego, FFS get real.

People are now saying they know people who couldnt get tickets, its your choice not to believe them. So maybe this 2k are fictional, I dont know. All I know is, I expected more PNE fans to make the effort to attend a play off match with a load of buzz around it then an end of season match that was likely to mean nothing, and that people are sayign they have mates or whatever who couldnt get tickets or maybe couldnt be assed trying to get tickets again after they'd been turned away once.
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OK genius - how would you have done it?
With the limited time they had they allowed anyone who had "bought a keyring in the club shop" if you believe some people, in the last 3 years get 1 ticket. Then with a day left, after ensuring anyone who had a genuine case for buying a ticket, and seeing sales hadn't gone as well as they hoped, put them on general sale. They obviously wouldn't have thought of this if it hadn't been mentioned on this messageboard. 🙄
Sheff Utd wanted an extra thousand tickets (they also misjudged the demand).
If either club had the demand they expected/hoped for Sheff U would have sold out, and their fans would have been happily picking up tickets in the home end as they'd be on general sale.
Remember getting Arsenal in the cup when they let ST holders buy multiple tickets and it sold out. Genuine fans didn't get a look in while ST holder friends/family who'd never set foot in Deepdale before got tickets.

It wasn't perfect but it wasn't a bad effort.
I've yet to meet anyone who couldn't genuinely get a ticket - let alone 2k.
Please let me know how you would have done it. I'll pick holes in your plan as slagging off is always easy and I will present you with a scenario where someone would have missed out.
If I can't, PNE, Sheff U, and probably every other club has a job waiting for you.
 
-maudinho- said:
Why?! Bloody hell! It's an even playing field for the second leg, why act so defeated? Granted we were very poor tonight, but this team have proven to be able to bounce back from disappointment and there's no reason why we can't do it again. Keep the faith people!
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Here here!
 
jaymo said:
Its not the staff thats been the problem, its the policy. Only putting them on general sale last night with a whimper wasnt the best way to go about selling the surplus.
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Agree entirely Jaymo! 😱😱😱😀
 
manatwork said:
OK genius - how would you have done it?
With the limited time they had they allowed anyone who had "bought a keyring in the club shop" if you believe some people, in the last 3 years get 1 ticket. Then with a day left, after ensuring anyone who had a genuine case for buying a ticket, and seeing sales hadn't gone as well as they hoped, put them on general sale. They obviously wouldn't have thought of this if it hadn't been mentioned on this messageboard. 🙄
Sheff Utd wanted an extra thousand tickets (they also misjudged the demand).
If either club had the demand they expected/hoped for Sheff U would have sold out, and their fans would have been happily picking up tickets in the home end as they'd be on general sale.
Remember getting Arsenal in the cup when they let ST holders buy multiple tickets and it sold out. Genuine fans didn't get a look in while ST holder friends/family who'd never set foot in Deepdale before got tickets.

It wasn't perfect but it wasn't a bad effort.
I've yet to meet anyone who couldn't genuinely get a ticket - let alone 2k.
Please let me know how you would have done it. I'll pick holes in your plan as slagging off is always easy and I will present you with a scenario where someone would have missed out.
If I can't, PNE, Sheff U, and probably every other club has a job waiting for you.
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look, all im saying is, is that they didnt shower themselves in glory, again. They didnt do an awful job, but they didnt do a great one. Thats all im saying and you seem to agree with me.

Persoanlly, after tuesdays sales (a day of ST sales and a day of PNE card sales) id have assesed the situation and either made a statement saying they would go on general sale or make a statement saying ST holders and MyPNE card holders could get extra tickets if they wanted (probably the latter to be honest). Thus meaning that everyone who wanted one had weds, thurs and Friday to buy extra tickets, not just Friday.

I cant see why, if sales werent brilliant after tuesday, or even wednesday, that the majority of thursday was spent with their fingers in their arse waiting to make a meek announcement late on that tickets would go on general sale from that evening.

It just looks to me like a lack of planning and a contingency plan. That they took a look on thursday, thought "fuck, we havent sold as many as we thought" and locked the barn door after the horse had bolted.

Also, if they had communicated that they would go on general sale when they announced the detail of the ticket sales. Those who hadnt registered (floating fans or neutrals by their definition I imagine) would know from day one what the crack was, these are the type of people who arent sat on this messageboard of the offish site all day waiting for developments on ticket sales. These are the type of people who have a look when they are announced, see they arent going on general sale and never look again.


I think they had the right strategy for a game with massive demand, where it was nigh on guaranteed to be a sell out. but they didnt have the contingency plan ready from the looks of it.

A lot of this boils down to poor communication. Had they said in the first place they were going on general sale, or even might go on general sale, then no one could criticise them for being too reactive as opposed to proactive. As it is no one will know now whether they alwasy planned to put them on general sale or whether it was a decision they made too late.
 
This has been done to death.
If you wanted a ticket badly enough, you'd have got one, as someone said earlier.
 
If there's even the smallest reason to criticise then the vultures are out. Some North Enders are like predators waiting for the kill.

We're not out of it yet traitors!
 
I don't really understand why there is so much anger because the crowd was lower than some people had imagined or wished for.

I wish we would get 18,000 every week but there is no point throwing a tantrum just because we don't.
 
basketcase said:
This has been done to death.
If you wanted a ticket badly enough, you'd have got one, as someone said earlier.
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Yes but.....
.....plenty of people wanted tickets but were not willing to jump through hoops to get one. At times like this, we need to prise EVERY worm out of the woodwork.
 
Some people, not naming names but everyone knows who I mean, just look for the slightest thing to moan about for moaning sake and like to say 'I told you so@ when things do not appear to go right for the club. I'm not saying all the moaning is misplaced but to jump up and down just because Sheff Utd don't sell all their allocation and there are a few other seats left empty is sad.

Plenty of fans like to move the goal posts and expect more of the club as the season goes by but they are obviously not as critical of themselves otherwise they would not be satisfied with what they earn and make sure that like DS they were £millionaires and be able to help run the club and put more money in to the club. But no, it is easier to pick fault with what we have achieved this season, which isn't over yet.
 
I wanted an extra ticket for a mate but couldn't get one. He's been on about 10 games this year but I always get them so he had no pne card = no ticket.

Putting them on general sale was no use because I already had mine by then. Nobody is going to want to pay £20 to watch the game on their own are they?

I just hope that if we get to Wembley there are some sensible ticketing schemes. 2 ticket per season ticket holder with any left over going on general sale. Simples.
 
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