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Attendances - Some Perspective

Attendances - Some Perspective

Mer5eywhite

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Amid all the concern about crowds, gate receipts etc. Some perspective:

Last night:

Plastics 11K

Brentford 12K (v Forest, a top 6 clash)

Hull 10K (v Huddersfield, a Yorkshire M62 derby - OK not quite next door to each other but you get my drift)

Luton 10K

Reading 11K (v Bristol, M4 derby - OK not quite next door to each other but as above, its an easy trip to make)

Wigan 9k (v Sheff Wed)


Suddenly our attendances seem about right. I remember the season Burnley went up to the prem for the first time, they had a number of sub 10K attendances in the first half of the season.
 
Mer5eywhite said:
Amid all the concern about crowds, gate receipts etc. Some perspective:

Last night:

Plastics 11K

Brentford 12K (v Forest, a top 6 clash)

Hull 10K (v Huddersfield, a Yorkshire M62 derby - OK not quite next door to each other but you get my drift)

Luton 10K

Reading 11K (v Bristol, M4 derby - OK not quite next door to each other but as above, its an easy trip to make)

Wigan 9k (v Sheff Wed)


Suddenly our attendances seem about right. I remember the season Burnley went up to the prem for the first time, they had a number of sub 10K attendances in the first half of the season.
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Bristol City sold out 2k at Reading tbf
 
Mer5eywhite said:
Amid all the concern about crowds, gate receipts etc. Some perspective:

Last night:

Plastics 11K

Brentford 12K (v Forest, a top 6 clash)

Hull 10K (v Huddersfield, a Yorkshire M62 derby - OK not quite next door to each other but you get my drift)

Luton 10K

Reading 11K (v Bristol, M4 derby - OK not quite next door to each other but as above, its an easy trip to make)

Wigan 9k (v Sheff Wed)


Suddenly our attendances seem about right. I remember the season Burnley went up to the prem for the first time, they had a number of sub 10K attendances in the first half of the season.
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I still think we could average around 15,000 if we were in an around the play offs as we are now, if the belief was there with the fans who have simply had enough of the false dawns an don't attend anymore
 
Regardless said:
What the hell are Reading playing at then?! Not exactly a tiny stadium - shouldn't be restricting the visitors to that number.
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Think they gave part of the end back to home fans (well children) to create a singing area a couple of seasons back so now with the barriers on either side of teh away fans there isn't as much space. Is an odd call for them certainly when they could be offering more space/revenue like we manage to do
 
Mer5eywhite said:
Amid all the concern about crowds, gate receipts etc. Some perspective:

Last night:

Plastics 11K

Brentford 12K (v Forest, a top 6 clash)

Hull 10K (v Huddersfield, a Yorkshire M62 derby - OK not quite next door to each other but you get my drift)

Luton 10K

Reading 11K (v Bristol, M4 derby - OK not quite next door to each other but as above, its an easy trip to make)

Wigan 9k (v Sheff Wed)


Suddenly our attendances seem about right. I remember the season Burnley went up to the prem for the first time, they had a number of sub 10K attendances in the first half of the season.
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FWIW and it does include total attendance not just home fans but our average of 13800 is 60% of capacity.

Rovers - 46%
Wigan - 43% (lowest in the league)
Hull - 46%
Reading - 63%

Luton highest in the league at 98%
 
Tino said:
FWIW and it does include total attendance not just home fans but our average of 13800 is 60% of capacity.

Rovers - 46%
Wigan - 43% (lowest in the league)
Hull - 46%
Reading - 63%

Luton highest in the league at 98%
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98% for Luton? Must be a small ground... which sells out every week (even must be away sell outs, which make it an even more surprising stat!)

Middlesbrough always looks the emptiest ground in the league. That sea of red. I noticed that Derby's black seats are much better at hiding poor crowds.... they don't stand out when empty.
 
Think Luton sell out the home ends most games.

Away end is little over 1,000 so that usually sells too, last time people will visit it.

With a new ground they might get pretty good crowds, although they'll probably be back in League One.
 
I've said it before and i'll say it again. We regularly get over 10% of our population on North End, even with Liverpool,Manchester and all the other Lancashire clubs within a short drive. I think people obsess too much about or crowd figures. It is what it is. It's not the 1950's any more when there was sod all else to do for entertainment except race Whippets or Pigeons. If we go up attendances will shoot up, if we go down, they'll drop. Same for all Clubs, Hull are a good example, look at their gates and they're the seventh biggest city in England.
 
Regardless said:
98% for Luton? Must be a small ground... which sells out every week (even must be away sell outs, which make it an even more surprising stat!)

Middlesbrough always looks the emptiest ground in the league. That sea of red. I noticed that Derby's black seats are much better at hiding poor crowds.... they don't stand out when empty.
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Yeah, 10,000 and full most weeks. One side of the ground is just executive boxes and one of the ends holds about 2000.

Boro - 57%
 
Regardless said:
Middlesbrough always looks the emptiest ground in the league. That sea of red. I noticed that Derby's black seats are much better at hiding poor crowds.... they don't stand out when empty.
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On the Gentry Day thread, there's a video of Brentford's new ground, and they have dotted various coloured seats here and there around the place, apparently so it doesn't look so empty on TV when it's a sparsely-attended game.
 
Regardless said:
98% for Luton? Must be a small ground... which sells out every week (even must be away sell outs, which make it an even more surprising stat!)

Middlesbrough always looks the emptiest ground in the league. That sea of red. I noticed that Derby's black seats are much better at hiding poor crowds.... they don't stand out when empty.
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slightly off-topic, are the tickets on sale for our game there in March yet? thinking of flying in for it.
 
Think Brentford's new ground will have a 20k capacity compared to about 14k now. Not much difference really, will probably only increase attendances if they go up.
 
Berlinender said:
slightly off-topic, are the tickets on sale for our game there in March yet? thinking of flying in for it.
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Be 2/3 weeks yet before Luton tickets out. Fulham to be released first - probably on Monday but given the low allocations for both Fulham and Luton, likely to be on sale to Premier Members/Ambassadors first after the fiasco with the West Brom game last season.
 
What was our average attendance at the height of the Billy Davies era? 13000-14000?
 
sf said:
No top flight football since 1961, our crowds are surprisingly consistent.
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I believe I read yesterday and, without going back to the source to verify, our average attendance in Division 1, 1960-1961, without Sir Tom, was 16K.
 
Mer5eywhite said:
Brentford 12K (v Forest, a top 6 clash)
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Max capacity, sold out a few days beforehand.

It's looking as if all BFC's remaining games this season could be Sold Out - combination of good form and final season.

And unless results/performances are really dire next season, I predict the new stadium (17.8k capacity) will sell out as well, in a typical "new stadium bounce".

Already sold all the Premium (i.e. expensive) Season Tickets for next season.
 
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