It's not as boring as you Paul
Attendances
It's not as boring as you Paul
This would pretty much be my plan and let someone else use it for the games I can't attend.
I like where I sit so makes sense to buy the seat. Saying that I'm probably going to do it whether we go up or not.
The answer is no.
Our low crowds now have an effect on our finances - E.g, we hear from John Kay how much it helps us when we get a big tie at home, therefore sell out.
However, with all the other income that you get from being in the Prem, our gate income is only a fraction of that.
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who? Me? No, I wouldn't be cherry picking, because I'd have a free season ticket from the previous offer if we made it to the prem. we can't sell out now against sides like Arsenal when we get them in the cup in what for us are one-off rarities that don't come around very often. What makes you think we would sell out against them in the prem when those games would be regular occurrences week in week out? Often on a Sunday tea time or Monday night? Always whilst being shown live on TV? And also while there are likely to be 7000 nobbers or so on free season tickets for whom missing the odd match wouldn't be a problem as the ST was free anyway? Liverpool and Man U, yes, sell outs, but anyone else? Nah. I doubt it personally. But if you think we would, I applaud the optimism.
You wouldn't have a free ST if we make the Prem because by your own admission, you don't have one this season thus you have broken the chain.
Read the small print Harry.
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Thanks for letting me know.
There obviously would be ‘sell out’s’ for some of the games---The two Manchester Clubs and Liverpool and Chelsea being examples---I would expect big gates for any Saturday afternoon matches too---Not sure about early kick off’s and Sunday and Monday evening ones though, ---Would I buy a season ticket? In my case I think probably NOT, I would have to risk it not getting a ticket for Saturday afternoon games against the ‘Big Boys’---I think Football should be played then, not at all over the weekend just for the convenience of the TV companies
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First season yes, but the longer you stay up the more will drift away especially without a relegation battle to get stuck into. It happens everywhere, Bournemouth aren't even filling their ground each week.
Financially it wouldn't matter at all, because gate receipts are such a small bit of a Prem club's income with all the TV money.
I'd expect it to be full fairly often though if we reached the top flight, and I'd expect the Kop to be split to accommodate it too.
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stop it ?? Is that true ? ground only holds 19 people ???
So I've been thinking about this quite a bit and honestly think I've come up with a solution to how we attract more fans...
I think if our supporters bitches and moaned a lot less then North End would seem like a much more attractive proposition for potential new supporters and stay away fans.
Even after a result like we had last night there is still an air of negativity from large sections of our support across social media about our chances.
Some might call it realism but if we can't be positive and hopeful when we have just pit in our best performance of the season how can we expect to encourage others to come and cheer on the famous PNE?
It's easy to sit here and say the club should be doing more with ticket offers and social media campaigns but some of the responsibility has to come from us, the fans, as we will be here long after the players/board/owners.
I think if our supporters bitches and moaned a lot less then North End would seem like a much more attractive proposition for potential new supporters and stay away fans.
Even after a result like we had last night there is still an air of negativity from large sections of our support across social media about our chances.
Some might call it realism but if we can't be positive and hopeful when we have just pit in our best performance of the season how can we expect to encourage others to come and cheer on the famous PNE?
It's easy to sit here and say the club should be doing more with ticket offers and social media campaigns but some of the responsibility has to come from us, the fans, as we will be here long after the players/board/owners.
So people stay away from Deepdale because some dickhead on twitter with 200 followers says that we won't make the play-offs? No, they'll stay away because we're playing Fulham, not a big team, and because it costs £24 for a ticket. If it was an F.A. Cup game on Saturday against one of the "top, top, top, top, top" teams then the game would be sold out by now.
And on the whole, Preston NE fans are a lot more positive these days than they used to be. Even in past promotion seasons the fans inside the ground used to give the players dog shit abuse for making simple mistakes and not being world beaters, now that kind of negativity tends to stay away whilst the game is in play. The Kop was bad for it in the 90s before it was demolished and then the Finney Stand took over the whinging mantel but now they must all be staying away from Deepdale and whinging on Twitter.
There’s still a good few moaners on the town end.
The ones who ironically cheer Callum Robinson off the pitch in the top corner, are the same ones who started singing his chant Tuesday night. Unbelievable.
That second paragraph is a load of rubbish! Alan browne got loads of abuse against Notts forest for making a few simple mistakes - that much that the manager decided to say something about it after the game. Other players get the same as well.
Also if prices dropped to £20 that wouldn't make much difference in our attendence. Look at it this way - Leeds charge over ten pound more then our tickets. They are mid table, playing awful football yet attracted 26,000 last night and have been doing all season. Why? Because they are a bigger club, city and don't have any huge prem clubs in their area. No matter what we do - deals, make tickets cheaper that will not make a slight bit of difference as we aren't a big club.
Attendances mean nothing in Football now. All it did was give us extra revenue. This is now covered by TV money etc meaning we no longer need a 20k gate every week to try and compete financially(meaning Nobhead Shaw would have run out of excuses). Get the correct Manager and right players it can be done on low gates, like Huddersfield,Bournemouth,Burnley. The attendances will grow in you get up there. Football has become too expensive so many fans won't pay £35(Bolton) unless they are watching their team vs City or Liverpool etc.
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As someone who goes to a lot of home games but doesn't have a season ticket I think the problem stems from the fact that there are only ever a maximum of 5900 (minus season tickets so whats that maybe 2000?) seats at £24 on sale in the whole ground and a lot of them are pretty poor views. They should look at opening the Kop for home fans again. At the moment if you go on as a group (and a lot of the old walk ups did that) and want to sit together the only place you can go on and get a decent view is the Finney and that will cost you £27 and lets be honest it is a bit lacking in the football experience that a group of young lads might want. If you want to pay £24 you are stuck down the front of the TE and although the view is alright, it isn't great. All you do by blocking off the whole of the Kop is block off 2000-3000 of the best £24 seats for home fans. Also when they give the whole of the kop to away fans they should make sure they open up more seats at £24 - my suggestion would be to make the 2 smaller blocks at either end of the Finney £24 for those matches too.
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You know what, good post. You make a good point about there probably not being enough £24 tickets available especially for the 'bigger' games. I just can't see them opening the Kop up at the moment for home fans, but they could do something with a Finney reduction for those sell out away end matches, and factor it into the STFS ST prices.
What's the reason you don't get a season ticket though if you do attend most games? For the TE doesn't it work out at something like 7 free matches if you get a ST?
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That top response has put me firmly in my place.
That’s not true. Some teams in our division get 15,000 more fans than us. At say £25 each for 23 games, that’s about £8m in extra revenue, that would make a huge difference to the budget