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The real corruption of the game is the proposition that, if found guilty of tapping up the Middlesborough youngster, Chelsea could be deducted a massive three points. Wow!

Find yourself unable to pay your bills (not through your own excesses), like Rotherham, and it's 10 points off without blinking.

One law for the haves and another for the have nots.

That's the real cancer in the game.
 
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Nottswhite said:
OH DEAR!!
EX PNE as well!!!
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Only in a caretaker role. I don't beleive he made any signngs and if he did, I think he didn't make that much money as we were in the old Division 3 (renamed division 2 and today called leauge 1).

The club was having enough problems at the time wondering how to get fans through the turnstiles never mind taking bribes. They were trying to bribe us never mind taking bungs and agent and all that!!!! LOL😀
 
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All a bit disappointing. However, it's easy to dismiss it when our own club is not involved. But i believe there's no smoke without fire on this one and even though it was a bit of a botch job program which left more questions than answers, and nothing would stand up in court in certainly (in my eyes anyway) gave an idea of the kind of things that are going on.

I wonder what Bolton fans feel about the inconsistency between Gartside in the papers and in private? And what would we think if it had been Shaw?
 
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Funny isn't it.. they didn't seem to find corrupt managers at any of the bigger clubs.

Easy target Big Sam and his son.
 
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I think that we will find that the FA investigation led by Lord Stevens will find things. It has already been leaked that Souness could be in trouble over the sale of Dunn and purchase of Boumsong.

Some managers have more of a tendency to buy certain "remote" players and you wonder how they have made the decision that they are good enough. Souness, Allardyce and Redknapp all come into that category.

There is a very interesting book called Broken Dreams by Tom Bower which lifts the lid on various scams including the George Graham and Brian Clough ones. Other managers are pointed at like O'Leary and Redknapp and it is poignant that they have never sued.
 
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I was rather dissapointed after that program, I was waiting for the hypped up shocking thing but it didnt materialise, I think all this program is gonna do is people will be asking questions instead of an investigation being done.
which i thought was going to happen after this program but there is nothing concrete for anyone to act on!🙄 🙄
 
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mickpne1 said:
I was rather dissapointed after that program, I was waiting for the hypped up shocking thing but it didnt materialise, I think all this program is gonna do is people will be asking questions instead of an investigation being done.
which i thought was going to happen after this program but there is nothing concrete for anyone to act on!🙄 🙄
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I think that you will find that the FA and Inland Revenue will ask for all the footage that was not shown for legal reasons.
 
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I am glad to see that I wasn't alone in thinking last nights Panorama very poor indeed.
The problem with these 'stings' is that they are offering the potential of a great deal of money to people whose integrity is suspect in the first place. They are going to tell you whatever you want. There is no way of knowing if they are telling the truth. That is why entrapment is frowned upon as evidence in court.
They seemed to blank out every other club or manager mentioned. Why?
Someone said 'lazy journalism'. I agree. If you want to know just how bad western journalism is (and read some rare examples of good journalism) try John Pilger's book 'Tell me no lies'
 
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Wasn't the best programme, and I was actually impressed with Arnesen at Chelsea, trying to sell his club, explaining what exactly his plans would be for the 'boro youngster if he was available.

However, does anyone else think that Allardyce jnr is going to get a right shoeing from his old man. Not only has jnr stitched snr up to a certain extent he also came across as a right tw*t. And to think he was once on our books........
 
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This must be the most badly timed advert ever!! I have received amongst my junk mail today, an offer to apply for a Bolton Wanderers credit card. On the front it announces "The transfer you have been looking for" and "Check out your rewards inside" Does this mean I may be able to get a slice of the bung pie?
 
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Given the paucity of the "evidence" that WAS screened and the obvious risk that Allardyce will sue them for the allegations, doed anybody believe that the BBC team are in possession of more damning evidence?

What they are doing is effectively daring Allardyce to sue, knowing that they have evidence which would vindicate them and effectively, sink, Allardyce?

Either they are being very clever in flushing out the corrupt individuals, or they really are Mickey Mouse journos who deserve to be sued and have their arses punched. Time will tell, but if Allardyce DOESN'T sue, I would be inclined to believe that he knows that they have good evidence against him. The lack of a libel/slander case would give them another opportunity to broadcast what they (may) have at a later date.
 
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Whiter than White said:
Given the paucity of the "evidence" that WAS screened and the obvious risk that Allardyce will sue them for the allegations, doed anybody believe that the BBC team are in possession of more damning evidence?

What they are doing is effectively daring Allardyce to sue, knowing that they have evidence which would vindicate them and effectively, sink, Allardyce?

Either they are being very clever in flushing out the corrupt individuals, or they really are Mickey Mouse journos who deserve to be sued and have their arses punched. Time will tell, but if Allardyce DOESN'T sue, I would be inclined to believe that he knows that they have good evidence against him. The lack of a libel/slander case would give them another opportunity to broadcast what they (may) have at a later date.
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I believe the FA tried to get this programme stopped from being shown - do they know there is more evidence and thought it my get a public airing last night?
 
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Sid and Doris Bonkers said:
The real corruption of the game is the proposition that, if found guilty of tapping up the Middlesborough youngster, Chelsea could be deducted a massive three points. Wow!

Find yourself unable to pay your bills (not through your own excesses), like Rotherham, and it's 10 points off without blinking.

One law for the haves and another for the have nots.

That's the real cancer in the game.
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This is the main point as far as PNE are concerned, - because we might just have the next 15-year-old Tom Finney on our books - and then Chelsea come in & whip him off us before he can even get in to the Reserve Team. Maybe our Club can get all our Prospects/Prospects parents to sign some sort of "Watertight" contract to make sure they are not party to such approaches
from the Giant Clubs.

I've absolutely S.F.A. sympathy for the 'Boro kid & I hope their Fans take the Total Piss out of them & run 'em out-of-town - for all the time/money that the Club has invested in the kid & then the kid can't wait to beggar off to the Bright Lights of the Big City.
 
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Sam will doubtless consult with Messrs Sue Grabbitt & Runne who have a fine reputation for acting on behalf of the besmirched. The BBC better have more on him than they have so far revealed, otherwise your license fees will be going up to pay for the damages 🙂
 
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cragtek said:
Chelsea no doubt have tough security and big money vetting procedures, but now the idea is out there, you can bet your bottom dollar more and more journalists will be trying their luck at infiltrating the big clubs and one day... one day.. the truth - if there is a truth - will out.
Agree with Brian though - I will be very surprised if the FA do anything about it.
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hopefully if that is the case then the BBC arent the programme doing it as they wasted enough of our money finding out absolutely nothing on the last one. I`d hardly call the ones doing the panoram programme journalists though
 
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as usual promised much and told us nothing, poor BBC 🙄. Preferred the Guys and Dolls Doc on Channel 5 the other night, now that was brilliant. 🙂
 
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