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White Horse 44 said:
Watched first 30 minutes of the reserves yesterday. In that time Callum, Brett and Andy Smith, yes Andy Smith all looked interested if not lively.

However and I know its 30 minutes only Neil Mellor looked slow and overweight. He reminded me of a latter day Ronnie Jepson but slower!
first impressions I accept but the lad should surely be getting fittish by now?

I hope I live to regret these early criticisms but as a fat lad I know when I meet my sort, and yesterday I met one.
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Well, my son said he reminded him of Tony Lormor..and that's good enough for me 🙂

and as for't ref gary... said:
Yeah yeah, they're overpaid and need a kick up the arse.

Still, it's not working, is it?
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Certainly isn't. OK, no excuse for professional players not to give their all, whatever the game. But as Callum Davidson pointed out, it's not as simple as that. It's not easy to get motivated when there's basically nothing at stake (apart from, in a few cases, a place on the First Team bench) and about 30 people watching. Particularly as most of them haven't been used to having to do it.

The players need convincing that under the new regime, reserve games are important but there are ways and means. Barr's methods have proved woefully inadequate and he is in danger of damaging the morale of the whole club if allowed to go unchecked.

I suspect that most of the players have little respect for a bloke who achieved little as a player himself..apart from being a very capable reserve!

Simpson needs to nip this in the bud or I see problems ahead.
 
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I think Billy Barr is just trying to raise the standards of the reserves, nothing would please him more to see one of the reserves do a Chris Sedgwick or a Patrick Agyemang and work hard in the reserves and earn the opportunity to play in the first team.

I think a few people read too much into what is being said at the moment, lets face it the poor results would be attracting attention from supporters whether Billy Barr said anything after the games or not. Let me ask you, would you be happy for the reserve team to continue to lose and for Barr to say nothing? If thre was a problem like this in the first team we'd all expect Simpson to tell us the truth and not hide behind old excuses, like the sky was the wrong colour, or to moan at the referee.

All players react differently to criticism and maybe Barr felt that after a few words to the individuals in private the message was still not being drummed in. By going public at least he's showing the will to win that needs to be fixed in the mind of all players at the club.

Obviously, the excuses made by Davidson are more acceptable for some. Yes it may be hard to motivate yourself to play for the reserves but, as most of the other clubs can manage it, this shouldn't be an excuse for our lot.
 
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It's really this simple. If they don't want to perform n the reserves then they will be shipped out.

I think Simpson is after dedicated players, who will give 100% each week.

He's after a team ethic of working hard for the team. He's not bothered about the reserve team winning as such, it just shows character of the type of player he is after.
 
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As you know, it is possibly to "Ship out" people. Loans are possibly and the transfer window is approaching very soon.

If they don't fit in here and are unhappy here, then it is in the interest of both parties to move on.

I'm sure PS would like them to stay, if they are talented and want to play for their place but he can hardly be sympathetic to the bad boy brigade, can he now?

or are you advocating keeping every unwanted player here until their contract expires?
 
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I've said this 'tactic' of mouthing off to the press is a receipe for disaster since Simpson started it over Ned pre season (Is he still on the books?....) Then Carlo has a go at it, and now we've got this bloke Billy -who exactly are you? - Barr losing ridiculous matches with the reserves and shouting the odds in the paper.

Management (in all areas of work not just football) requires an ability to get people on your side and pulling together. This bunch just don't seem to have it.(Please don't anyone quote the current 4th position in the table in contradiction. Yes I Know we are fourth, but no-one knows how, because few people with open eyes could fail to notice we are not actually very good week in week out.)

I think it's about time Degsy had a bit of a group lockin and sorted it.

Just a point re Callum's comments about it being difficult to get motivated for reserve matches. What about the simple 'will to win' you would expect any self respecting pro sportsperson to possess? I would have thought the sheer embarrassment of being turned over by Carlisle's / Rochdale's kids would be enough for our 'stars' to make sure it didn't happen. Apparently not. No wonder they pref closed doors friendlies!
 
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Sorry to sound like a parrot on this thread but again I agree with TN@T.

Just a suggestion but maybe a few of us should go down to Deepdale the next time the Reserves play at home....Wed 18th October against Wrexham and it's a 7.00 p.m. kick off. See for ourselves how they are actually playing and also see if they play any better with a bit of a crowd getting behind them and some encouragement off us?

I wonder if the players in the reserves would prefer to not bother with them at all? But where on earth would they then get a decent match practice? Would they prefer just to train?
 
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Perhaps the previous regime had a fair point is disbanding the reserves, players should surely regain sharpness out on loan at other club's, where there is an opportunity to play competitive matches, and for the club to have the players wages subsidised.

The reserves as other clubs seem to do, should or could be a ground to bring on the youth at the club.

Maybe there has been a reaction also to the sacking of the second team phsyio, who had only just been given a new contract, and who was assured by Simpson that he was wanted, also the back of a fag packet and let me blow smoke in your face tactics from Booth and co. and the let me berate you in the press attitude of Barr.

Fans go on about the size of the squad, thank god its still plenty in numbers, with the injuries, transfers and loans out, we have had a pretty tread bare bench. Simpson has brought in four of his own signings, so he has added to the numbers required, and its his responsibilty to trim the numbers as he see's.

I just hope that the current run of unbeaten games continues, but we have had 5 draws, and as before, these could come back to haunt us. Barr's rants, Booths lack of tack (smoking in front of players at team briefs and meetings just for starters) leaves me more than a little concerned that the backroom team under Simpson are maybe not of the culture or standard required, we never heard this sort of stuff out of Darby and co.
 
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With people seemingly criticising Billy Barr for his handling of the reserves and no wins ast the moment it seems as though successful youth team managers cant just go from one winning team and create another straight away. It seems one of the defectors i.e. Kevin Thelwell is not doing that well with THEIR reserves after a 3-0 hiding at the weekend. So lgive hime time and criticise him in the future if the results do not change.

http://www.dcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Academy/0,,10270~907887,00.html
 
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Thelwell is at least working with youth team players, and improving the potential of the club. Barr is working with International's, ex Prem players, championship players, senior pro's and a smattering of youth, and producing ZIP.

Lets take a look at the backroom team, fag ash Lil, bollocking in public Barrr, never played above Sunday football goalie coach, or couch!!!! maybe just not up to getting anything out of unhappy players, players we need to cover injuries and suspensions, players we need to be able to develop and sell, these guys seem well out of their depth. With nothing comming from the reserves, Simpson is going to be pushing water uphill as the season develops, get player's out on loan, get them playing competitive football, get some wage support from other teams, and forget about the reserves using senior players. The reserves should be for developing youth, get it sorted.
 
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