Bodin

[simo]

A somewhat exhaustive pre-season has left the club's only decent striker (Maguire) with an 8-week (plus) injury that is commonly made more likely to happen through over-training; Maguire should have been wrapped in the proverbial cotton wool for the entire pre-season. Bodin's injury may sound like a freak accident but one wonders how hard the players are being drilled. Tired legs can commonly result in this kind of loss-of-balance, footing and twisting injury. One wonders how much rest the players have had in the last fortnight, in pursuit of stamina and fitness.
As another has contributed, the door opens for Horgan who, in my book, has a better eye for a killer pass or angle than Bodin and anyone else on the pitch. An early end to a promising career, with that never-the-same-player-again type of injury.
Questions ought to be directed towards the club's fitness coach who may want to re-study the concept of rest for a professional footballer preparing for a season of 50+ full on football matches. Too late now. Our goal threat has gone but let's hope a lesson has been learned.

You may well be right but you're basically guessing aren't you? Unless you know something specific the rest of us don't.

 

[California_PNE]

He had a similar injury four years ago and was out for nine months with it. Could be the same knee although not sure.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/27251588

Interesting and worrying find there.
Christ, you need the lot to make it big time don't you, fitness, talent, solid body, luck. That combination coukd make you worth a shitload.

Billy you need to be determined and rejoin the squad when we need you in the home stretch, good luck in recovery.

 

[RVW]

Of course they have been drilled hard. They need to get back up to match fitness

Everyone on here could virtually predict that Maguire would have a repeat or similar hamstring issue after last season unless he was protected in some way from a vigorous pre-season. It is just plain commonsense that we protect as best we can our number one goal scoring threat.

Bodin, a different kettle of fish, I guess that incident could happen to any player at any time...…..but Maguire...……..I suspect not enough protection for what was an injury just waiting to re-emerge.

This is not being wise after the event, I (and perhaps others on here) could see this coming after he was given basically no respite last season after coming from a full season in Ireland.


Yet we just buried our heads into the sand. Madness, just plain madness!

 

[pnenycx]

Everyone on here could virtually predict that Maguire would have a repeat or similar hamstring issue after last season unless he was protected in some way from a vigorous pre-season. It is just plain commonsense that we protect as best we can our number one goal scoring threat.

Protect him from getting fit pre season? Heard it all now.

 

[jakehake]

Protect him from getting fit pre season? Heard it all now.

You can imagine how after “protecting” him for a pre season when he was getting subbed off after 60 minutes every game in the league the same people would be criticising the pre-season for not getting them match fit

 

[Yoowell]

You can imagine how after “protecting” him for a pre season when he was getting subbed off after 60 minutes every game in the league the same people would be criticising the pre-season for not getting them match fit

In hindsight the ‘protection’ for Maguire should have really come last year when he was signed from Cork. He had been playing since February and that included a European campaign.
That now gives us no excuses with Burke....if he were to play continuous football until next May that’s nearly a year and a half without a break.

 

[Tino]

In hindsight the ‘protection’ for Maguire should have really come last year when he was signed from Cork. He had been playing since February and that included a European campaign.
That now gives us no excuses with Burke....if he were to play continuous football until next May that’s nearly a year and a half without a break.

And Barkhuizen who was flogged after being ill. Neil needs to use his squad far better imo this season hence why Maguire and Bodin need replacing.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Everyone on here could virtually predict that Maguire would have a repeat or similar hamstring issue after last season unless he was protected in some way from a vigorous pre-season. It is just plain commonsense that we protect as best we can our number one goal scoring threat.

Bodin, a different kettle of fish, I guess that incident could happen to any player at any time...…..but Maguire...……..I suspect not enough protection for what was an injury just waiting to re-emerge.

This is not being wise after the event, I (and perhaps others on here) could see this coming after he was given basically no respite last season after coming from a full season in Ireland.


Yet we just buried our heads into the sand. Madness, just plain madness!

We've had to put up with God knows how many posts giving the lack of a pre- season as the excuse for such and such not firing on all cylinders, and now we are saying pre-season traing is the CAUSE of our problems rather than a cure. Dearie me.

 

[SuffolknWhat]

And Barkhuizen who was flogged after being ill. Neil needs to use his squad far better imo this season hence why Maguire and Bodin need replacing.

Results over welfare last season?
How soon after his first injury was Maguire thrust back into action and how long did he last before it flared up again and he was out for months.Maybe that's why AN wanted similar level cover in all positions to allow for full recovery this season.
Live and learn.

 

[Yoowell]

Results over welfare last season?
How soon after his first injury was Maguire thrust back into action and how long did he last before it flared up again and he was out for months.Maybe that's why AN wanted similar level cover in all positions to allow for full recovery this season.
Live and learn.

I think AN and PR know what is required..... to try and protect/preserve the players but are struggling to convince the owner.
Maybe try explaining it in horse terms...if you run them ever week they end up in the knackers yard Trev.

 

[Nishtar36]

We've had to put up with God knows how many posts giving the lack of a pre- season as the excuse for such and such not firing on all cylinders, and now we are saying pre-season traing is the CAUSE of our problems rather than a cure. Dearie me.

Harry, you’ve got a weird obsession with denting the whole pre season improves players thing. Why?

Bodin himself said it was difficult coming in half way through the season. It’s common sense that players will improve with 6 weeks intensive fitness and tactical work under their belts... why are you so against it?

https://www.lep.co.uk/sport/footbal...l-s-preston-north-end-shopping-list-1-9280330

 

[Dirty Harry]

Harry, you’ve got a weird obsession with denting the whole pre season improves players thing. Why?

Bodin himself said it was difficult coming in half way through the season. It’s common sense that players will improve with 6 weeks intensive fitness and tactical work under their belts... why are you so against it?

https://www.lep.co.uk/sport/footbal...l-s-preston-north-end-shopping-list-1-9280330

I'm not against it Nishtar, I'm just getting fed up of hearing it - it's been going on since we signed May and Grimshaw now. The regularity of this being used is suggesting to me that we are developing a worrying habit of signing players who aren't fit. Hope that answers your question mate.

 

[Nishtar36]

I'm not against it Nishtar, I'm just getting fed up of hearing it - it's been going on since we signed May and Grimshaw now. The regularity of this being used is suggesting to me that we are developing a worrying habit of signing players who aren't fit. Hope that answers your question mate.

Fair enough, mate. It does get used as a stock answer to justify a new arrival’s form but it genuinely does have importance behind it. Not always fitness wise, but just generally most tactical work is done in pre season as well.

 

[Lee Trundle]

I'm not against it Nishtar, I'm just getting fed up of hearing it - it's been going on since we signed May and Grimshaw now. The regularity of this being used is suggesting to me that we are developing a worrying habit of signing players who aren't fit. Hope that answers your question mate.

You are correct in that some think preseason is going to transform a player from average to unbeatable, and it is so often banded about as the greatest fix of a players bad form.

But for arrivals who come in January, often a little jaded, the rest and squad integration pre season provides in noticeable

 

[Tino]

Fair enough, mate. It does get used as a stock answer to justify a new arrival’s form but it genuinely does have importance behind it. Not always fitness wise, but just generally most tactical work is done in pre season as well.

Not to mention team bonding. Crucial. It can't be easy coming into a squad mid way through a season regardless of how welcoming and friendly the squad are.

 

[Mahwell skel]

Not to mention team bonding. Crucial. It can't be easy coming into a squad mid way through a season regardless of how welcoming and friendly the squad are.

Bodin I think played youth football with Hughes. I saw them in town together. This type of stuff translates to Hughes ball to him against West Ham for the goal. I think most of our signings have had connections to the squad already. Some exceptions were May and Doyle and that seemed to cause difficulties. Of the current squad it's perhaps only Moult who doesn't have an immediate connection to others (or the area and ignoring those that have been here for years)

 

[sedgwick__7]

Fair enough, mate. It does get used as a stock answer to justify a new arrival’s form but it genuinely does have importance behind it. Not always fitness wise, but just generally most tactical work is done in pre season as well.

Correct. It's helpful but where it gets stupid is when people think it will turn a poor player into a great one just like magic. Like when people thought Kyel Reid would be good after a full pre-season, even though we'd moved up a division as well.

 

[paddysr]

Bodin I think played youth football with Hughes. I saw them in town together. This type of stuff translates to Hughes ball to him against West Ham for the goal. I think most of our signings have had connections to the squad already. Some exceptions were May and Doyle and that seemed to cause difficulties. Of the current squad it's perhaps only Moult who doesn't have an immediate connection to others (or the area and ignoring those that have been here for years)

Aye this is something I've mentioned before. Think sometimes we sign players partly on than basis or at least it's a consideration.