Burke
JK;n3414897 said:
Did we not learn from the O'Connor and Boyle signings? Although I assume they are all on minimal wages what is the point in having players who are not good enough for League 2 who we have to dump out on loan.
Burke was completely lost again today and it was embarrassing.
Afraid trying to run a Championship club on the cheap will lead to relegation in pretty quick time.
Burke showed the occasional neat touch today while being played out-of-position in team which while he was on the pitch was frankly dysfunctional - was he markedly worse than any of our other players during that time. Play him on the left of the midfield in a team with a forceful central midfield and some presence upfront and he might make a useful contribution. Providing we can get a few players in in January and get some of our injured players back then the best thing for him might be a loan out to a Div 1 club. Half a season at that level to toughen him up a bit and he might come back able to make a worthwhile contribution. The real question for today is why on earth AN in Pearson's absence did not start Ledson.
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ernest;n3414903 said:
As I posted in my "Team v Hull City" thread...
https://www.pne-online.net/forum/forum/football-forums/pne-discussions/3414520-team-v-hull-city
Given what was available and now with hindsight, Clarke would now replace Fisher as he proved to be fit.
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ernest;n3414903 said:
When were these neat touches? All I recall is him scuffing anything near the box that came his way, giving the ball away on the edge of their box twice giving Hull dangerous counter attacks, and also giving it away near our own box.
By the left of midfield where do you mean? He was be equally awful in the centre 3 and he was equally awful when he briefly played on the left of the attacking 3 today.
He’s simply miles out of his depth at this level and I suspect the next game he plays will be back in the League of Ireland.
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ernest;n3414909 said:
The midfield of Gallagher and Johnson sitting with Browne in front got us 3 points away at Forest.
Ledson will have to be in and out, he's still very inexperienced in this division.
He did better today than previously and put himself about, but still gave the ball away a few times in very poor areas. The likes of Gallagher and Johnson don't do that generally.
kbd_pne;n3414905 said:
I mean where he was towards the end of the first half today. I am not saying he was brilliant - you may recall that I said at half-time he should probably make way for Ledson. But played there wide of a strong central midfield, linking up with an overlapping fullback and with someone forceful upfront he might then he might make a useful contribution.
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ernest;n3414909 said:
Yet DJ when he joined Gally in that position at HT away to Villa when 2-0 down...
DJ has more experience than Ledson in that position.
I hope you are not suggesting dropping the now 8 goal Browne to accomodate either DJ as the #10 or to put Ledson - whom I like btw - into the team at the expense of DJ?
You are clearly quite blinkered Ernest. Given that you don't see games as often as I do...
EDIT - Sedge beat me to the reply but is basically saying what I just posted.
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Out of his depth unfortunately. He is tidy on the ball but he's nowhere near athletic enough for this level unfortunately.
It's a shame as he's not actually been used in his position yet, although that's no excuse. I hope we see him at 10 vs Doncaster but I can't see it myself, and wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him in another match day squad this season.
It's a shame as he's not actually been used in his position yet, although that's no excuse. I hope we see him at 10 vs Doncaster but I can't see it myself, and wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him in another match day squad this season.
Jack Daniels;n3414918 said:
Of course I am not suggesting dropping Browne. If you look at what I said before the game I stated quite categorically that Gallagher, Browne and Johnson should all start along with Barkhuizen. Given that Nmecha was our only option for upfront that left one place in the front six and I said that should be Ledson - exactly the formation with which we started the second half and which for 20 minutes looked like it might win us the game. Unless we start with Simpson I can't see any alternative to doing that on Saturday. I just refuse to make a scapegoat out of Burke for what was basically a poor selection by AN. I'll say again if Burke were to be played in a position that suited him with a strong team around him he might make a worthwhile contribution. By the way when Gallagher and Johnson played together at Villa it was against ten men and how on earth is Ledson going to get experience without being played?
ernest;n3414919 said:
Robinson wasn't playing.
ernest;n3414929 said:
Same keeper, same back 4, same midfield. Nmecha for Moult and Burke for Barker up top, compared to the Forest game. The problem is stemming from a lightweight attacking line and a lack of wingers unbalancing us. The midfield of Gallagher, Johnson and Browne has been okay.
ernest;n3414926 said:
Mate you weren't at the game, no scapegoating but he was awful. Positional rubbish, lost the ball every time he got on it. A player can make a decent fist of being out of position, Burke was awful and that wasn't just due to his position.
Edit: Just seen your earlier post, in answer to your question yes he was markedly worse than the rest of the team, by some way, and no he wasn't better when on the left, it just make us easier to bypass him in attack and cope without his help defensively.
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