Changes for Hull

[Regardless]

The reaction in some quarters to the Millwall game really is over the top. ...

It was worse after the Barnsley game. Then we won two games and it became odd-on that we'd go up as Champions... and now it looks like we're destined for mid-table mediocrity - or perhaps relegation.

 

[pnematic]

He was very good vs Cardiff and scored vs b'ham so after an off day up against 2 giant CB's vs Millwall he should be dropped? For who exactly?

I think he should , just my opinion of course , he won't be dropped.

Who to replace him ? Our natural goal scorer Maguire , no target man and get the ball on the deck .

 

[IanBogie9]

Robinson, Horgan, Spurr, Marnick, Browne - all will be fresher than the lads who've been playing...up to AN though!


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[Tino]

Robinson, Horgan, Spurr, Marnick, Browne - all will be fresher than the lads who've been playing...up to AN though!


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You don't mean for all 5 to come in do you?

Spurr and Browne will play I think, in place of Earl and Harrop.

 

[keithaw]

You don't mean for all 5 to come in do you?

Spurr and Browne will play I think, in place of Earl and Harrop.

Who would you play at LB Davies or Spurr with the other player at CB, personally if this happens I would play Davies at LB with Spurr at CB, I choose this way round due to Davies having more pace & can get up & wing better & use Spurr height & strength at CB? ( that just my way of thinking)

 

[Doc Brown]

He’s been a good clubman but I think we’ve needed an upgrade on him for a while. Someone that can play twice a week would be a start.

I think Welsh is doing his usual tbh. A barnstorming return to the side (Cardiff) and then beginning to drop off.

He’ll do a few dramatic slide challenges which get a round of applause but his quality on the ball is lower league standard. That left us with only Johnson who could play it through the thirds and subsequently we ended up going long quite often, playing into Millwall’s hands.

He is not a sufficient back-up for Pearson and it needs addressing in January. They’ve been good servants, but Welsh and Gallagher need replacing in the next 1-2 windows.

Absolutely this, though I think it may be premature to move Gallagher on in January - I think he still has more to offer despite his recent injury problems.

 

[giro]

Only change I'd make is browne for Welsh

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Would you care to expand on your logic for replacing one of the best players on the pitch, on Saturday?

 

[kbd_pne]

Not crap - but should be benched. I m suspicious that he " can't " be dropped due to his , ahem , price tag.

Shop window and all that.

He was very good vs Cardiff and scored vs b'ham so after an off day up against 2 giant CB's vs Millwall he should be dropped? For who exactly?

I wouldn’t drop him, especially for a tough, physical away game. My frustration is that even when he is absolutely not playing well, i.e Barnsley and Millwall, he doesn’t get subbed.

Clearly Neil doesn’t think there’s a viable alternative in the no.9 role. That needs to change come January as we need better competition than that. He’s basically guaranteed to start and never come off, not sure that brings out the best in a player.

Absolutely this, though I think it may be premature to move Gallagher on in January - I think he still has more to offer despite his recent injury problems.

I’m not necessarily willing them out of the door. If we have to wait until the summer when they’re OoC to let them go then so be it. I just think a priority over the next window or two has to be replacing those two. I’d want at least 1 CM in in January.

Not a big Welsh fan tbh but he’s looked more useful than Gallagher so far, who I think looks wooden and un-athletic now sadly. Thought he was poor when he came on at Derby and poor again when he started against Barnsley, and he is regularly unavailable anyway.

 

[llanroc]

I wouldn’t drop him, especially for a tough, physical away game. My frustration is that even when he is absolutely not playing well, i.e Barnsley and Millwall, he doesn’t get subbed.

Clearly Neil doesn’t think there’s a viable alternative in the no.9 role. That needs to change come January as we need better competition than that. He’s basically guaranteed to start and never come off, not sure that brings out the best in a player.



I’m not necessarily willing them out of the door. If we have to wait until the summer when they’re OoC to let them go then so be it. I just think a priority over the next window or two has to be replacing those two. I’d want at least 1 CM in in January.

Not a big Welsh fan tbh but he’s looked more useful than Gallagher so far, who I think looks wooden and un-athletic now sadly. Thought he was poor when he came on at Derby and poor again when he started against Barnsley, and he is regularly unavailable anyway.

And it's no surprise that we dropped 5 points in those 2 games.

 

[newy]

Would you care to expand on your logic for replacing one of the best players on the pitch, on Saturday?

I prefer browne. Has legs, gets up and down the pitch and contributes to attacks. Welsh is great tackling but offers little with the ball

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[Yoowell]

I prefer browne. Has legs, gets up and down the pitch and contributes to attacks. Welsh is great tackling but offers little with the ball

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For me it's Browne who will be more suited to tonight's game and I think that will be the only change. That's not to say Welsh didn't play ok on Saturday by the way.

 

[White123]

I'd also drop Harrop, for me he is showing he isn't yet ready for the champ. His set pieces are wasteful at best. He shows great touches at time but his reading of the game isn't there. As mentioned Gally would be the one instead of Harrop for me when fit.

If gally not fit I'd play Browne to give us more bite particularly in the absence of pearson and I think Hull away we will need more bite.

And you have got that info after one game. His performances against Cardiff and Birmingham show that he IS ready for the championship as well as his class performance in the prem last season. But once again, some PNE fans are the fountain of all knowledge and believe that one bad performance makes you a bad player. Pathetic!

 

[Tugg Speedman]

Not a big Welsh fan tbh but he’s looked more useful than Gallagher so far, who I think looks wooden and un-athletic now sadly. Thought he was poor when he came on at Derby and poor again when he started against Barnsley, and he is regularly unavailable anyway.

I don't get the John Welsh love in. He's just ok that's all but we need more at this level.

 

[White123]

Absolutely laughable this thread - Welsh is finished (after MoM performance Saturday), Harrop not ready for Championship (Played for Utd in Prem last season!), Horgan deserves game time (much better options ahead of him). Thank God AN is steering this ship!

This is what PNE online is like after every bad result. Moaning, moaning and even more moaning.

 

[California_PNE]

Absolutely laughable this thread - Welsh is finished (after MoM performance Saturday), Harrop not ready for Championship (Played for Utd in Prem last season!), Horgan deserves game time (much better options ahead of him). Thank God AN is steering this ship!

just catching up with this thread, and christ what a load of shite some are spouting indeed

get a grip!

hope all the traveling nobbers have a good evening, and hope we get the result, i'll be watching

up the whites!

 

[Tino]

Who would you play at LB Davies or Spurr with the other player at CB, personally if this happens I would play Davies at LB with Spurr at CB, I choose this way round due to Davies having more pace & can get up & wing better & use Spurr height & strength at CB? ( that just my way of thinking)

For me Keith I'd play Spurr at LB. Spurr looks fit enough now to get up and down the pitch better than he used to, and he's decent enough on the ball. Playing LB would also make it easier for him to utilise his long throw and the Huntington-Davies partnership has done very well and I'm not sure I'd break that up at the moment, even just for a game or 2.

 

[Tugg Speedman]

This is what PNE online is like after every bad result. Moaning, moaning and even more moaning.

I think we're having a fantastic season and Saturdays result was not a bad result in my opinion. I've said on another thread we have a young squad so our performances could naturally be hit and miss on occasion. But overall things are looking extremely promising and this is an exciting time to be a PNE fan.

I'm off to Hull tonight which should be a much more open game than Saturday and I can't wait.

 

[proton]

I wouldn't make any unforced changes to a defence that has conceded so few goals,it definitely isn't broken so leave it alone.
For me it's Browne or Welsh, can Welsh play 2 games in 4 days ?
TB is the one i would consider changing not seemed effective playing out wide.

 

[pne_monster]

I think Welsh deserves a bit more credit than he's getting on this thread. He's not just a slide-tackler (which he does brilliantly, by the way) - he can play in to feet as well.

I'm not saying he's better than Pearson, who does provide more going forwards, but he's not done as badly as this thread makes out.

Yours sincerely,

John Welsh's Mum.

Well said. He doesn't play killer balls or long diagonals, but he's better technically than a lot think, he just keeps it simple.

 

[jcpne]

Hilarious this board. One week we'll piss the league next week everyone's shite.

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