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Changes for Hull

Changes for Hull

proton said:
I wouldn't make any unforced changes to a defence that has conceded so few goals,it definitely isn't broken so leave it alone.
For me it's Browne or Welsh, can Welsh play 2 games in 4 days ?
TB is the one i would consider changing not seemed effective playing out wide.
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You missed all his assists recently then?

Seems odd how some ignore the actual facts and base stuff on what they think they've seen or just on general overall play.
 
Tino said:
You missed all his assists recently then?

Seems odd how some ignore the actual facts and base stuff on what they think they've seen or just on general overall play.
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Actually i based the comment not on what i thought I'd seen but on what i did see and what would be so wrong in basing an opinion about a player on their general overall play?
 
proton said:
Actually i based the comment not on what i thought I'd seen but on what i did see and what would be so wrong in basing an opinion about a player on their general overall play?
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barky has woken up mate from a very very sleepy start to the season

without question deserves his place
 
California_PNE said:
barky has woken up mate from a very very sleepy start to the season

without question deserves his place
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Didn't seem so effective on Saturday playing out wide,i wouldn't be the only poster to question his effectiveness in that position, of course whilst we use 1 main striker that is difficult to change.
 
proton said:
Didn't seem so effective on Saturday playing out wide,i wouldn't be the only poster to question his effectiveness in that position, of course whilst we use 1 main striker that is difficult to change.
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who played out of their skin on saturday really?
up to their best?

again, its like the barnsley game we miss pearson at home a lot, we dont pass anywhere near enough without him at home, away teams are respecting us at deepdale etc etc... but he was outstanding at birmingham, cardiff game also played extremely well - hes waking up - and i've been critical of his piss poor start to the season but hes getting it back - support the lad
 
California_PNE said:
who played out of their skin on saturday really?
up to their best?

again, its like the barnsley game we miss pearson at home a lot, we dont pass anywhere near enough without him at home, away teams are respecting us at deepdale etc etc... but he was outstanding at birmingham, cardiff game also played extremely well - hes waking up - and i've been critical of his piss poor start to the season but hes getting it back - support the lad
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I didn't say anyone played out of their skins on Saturday, merely that I'm not convinced that playing him out wide makes the best use of him.

In what way have i failed to "support the lad" ? This is a forum to discuss footballing issues and that is all i have done,been supporting the club for along time thanks.
 
proton said:
I didn't say anyone played out of their skins on Saturday, merely that I'm not convinced that playing him out wide makes the best use of him.

In what way have i failed to "support the lad" ? This is a forum to discuss footballing issues and that is all i have done,been supporting the club for along time thanks.
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i actually cant believe you're even questioning him to be honest

i mean its total bollocks what you're saying anyway

lets agree to disagree
 
California_PNE said:
i actually cant believe you're even questioning him to be honest

i mean its total bollocks what you're saying anyway

lets agree to disagree
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Whenever anyone uses the "total bollocks" argument its a sure sign they have no meaningful reply.Just for clarity,since you seem to be struggling, i have not questioned the player personally merely the position he finds himself in at the moment.
 
proton said:
Whenever anyone uses the "total bollocks" argument its a sure sign they have no meaningful reply.Just for clarity,since you seem to be struggling, i have not questioned the player personally merely the position he finds himself in at the moment.
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the above, total bollocks

this time unquestionably appropriate
 
proton said:
Didn't seem so effective on Saturday playing out wide,i wouldn't be the only poster to question his effectiveness in that position, of course whilst we use 1 main striker that is difficult to change.
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Not taking sides in this discussion but (didn't go to Leeds) even in the early season games I can't recall one where Barky has not created a good chance either for himself or someone else.Millwall was certainly the case where whilst not at his best he had a solo effort tipped round the post and set up the best chance of the game.
Many games will be tight and one burst of skill/pace/vision could be decisive so for me he starts.
Not sure of his best position though, or to be more precise where we could consistently get the best out of him.
 
Reflecting back on the Millwall game we clearly reached a point mid-way through the second half where changes appeared to be needed given our inability to find a way through a solid defence. Neil chose to replace Harrop, Johnson and Barkhuizen with Browne, Mavididi and Robinson. While I can see why the changes were made I don’t think it made us any more effective. Granted, the three that came off were misfiring but for all that Harrop and Johnson kept probing for openings and when they left the pitch we lost that. Browne aside, Robinson looks out of sorts (possibly understandable as he hasn’t been able to hold his place in the team on a regular basis) and with Mavididi it’s difficult to see what he really offers us though in fairness he’s inexperienced, young and had limited time to effect the game. That said, he seemed to play it safe when he came on rather than showing an urgency that the situation demanded in an attempt to change the game.

In my view the changes didn’t improve us; rather it seemed to blunt us further so I would have kept Harrop and Johnson going in the hope that it would have delivered at some stage.

With the above in mind I’m not sure that changes for tonight’s game in any of these areas will help apart from the cliché of having fresh legs available.
 
California_PNE said:
barky has woken up mate from a very very sleepy start to the season

without question deserves his place
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This for me. And his slow start was literally just 2 games. Since the he's been making goals and creating chances - he created the only decent chance we had on Saturday. He's also been shooting and actually hitting the target, something the other wide players (Robinson especially) haven't been.
 
I think it will be Browne for Welsh (pretty sure he couldn't play 2 games a week before his long lay off, never mind now ?), then Maguire and Harrop dropping out for two of Mavididi/Horgan/Robinson.
 
sedgwick__7 said:
I think it will be Browne for Welsh (pretty sure he couldn't play 2 games a week before his long lay off, never mind now ?), then Maguire and Harrop dropping out for two of Mavididi/Horgan/Robinson.
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There will be street parties in Hull if we leave out Maguire and Harrop.
 
sedgwick__7 said:
I just think he'll try to freshen up that 3 behind Hugill, especially after a pretty sluggish display only days ago.
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As some others have said I think the display on Saturday was more credit to Millwall than us being sluggish. On the strength of previous performances both deserve to keep their place I think.
 
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