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rikartalex

rikartalex

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It was mentioned on the RL commentary yesterday that we had all our 11 players defending corners, even when time was running out and we were still only 1-0 down. The summariser questioned why we didn't have a couple of attackers on the half way line ready for a quick counter attack.

Isn't that how Fulham scored their second goal yesterday, a counter attack from our attacking corner kick?

We seem to always defend corners like this. Rudd usually has to hold on to the ball to wait for our midfield and strikers to get up the field, which also allows the opposition to get back too.
 
rikartalex said:
It was mentioned on the RL commentary yesterday that we had all our 11 players defending corners, even when time was running out and we were still only 1-0 down. The summariser questioned why we didn't have a couple of attackers on the half way line ready for a quick counter attack.

Isn't that how Fulham scored their second goal yesterday, a counter attack from our attacking corner kick?

We seem to always defend corners like this. Rudd usually has to hold on to the ball to wait for our midfield and strikers to get up the field, which also allows the opposition to get back too.
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It makes literally 0 sense not to stick Barkhuizen on the half way line when we are defending corners
 
We had this thread quite recently and this touches on a similar topic, not enough movement when we break out of corners and a DIMITA approach. It's negative and goes against what Neil said when he first joined, which is confusing as to why he's doing it.
 
I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that last season no team conceded more goals from corners than we did. (Stat check please 😂)
 
Fulham had everyone back for the corner that they scored on the counter from, Rudd was stood on the halfway line on his own.

Most of the top sides in Europe defend corners the same way, everyone back, 4 or 5 zonal around the six yard box, man on the edge of the box, one at the front post to cover short corners and anything fired in low, everyone else around the penalty spot trying to block runners and hold them up. Liverpool bring Mane and Salah back for corners rather than leaving them up the pitch.

Crowding the box makes it difficult for anyone to get a free run on the ball or a free header, taking players out of there just opens up space. Leaving one attacker on the halfway line is rarely effective, very difficult for them to do anything against two defenders and the ball to them has to be perfect for them to even get hold of it. It's actually easier to counter attack with everyone back, if the opposition only have one man back they've got a huge amount of space to cover and a quick throw out from the keeper can put them in trouble, but to do that we need more players breaking forward at pace instead of jogging out of the box and Rudd has to actually look for options instead of holding onto the ball and slowing the game on.
 
Imagine what the opposition would do if we left 3 or even 4 up near the half way line. It would obviously be stupid if we conceded, but it would be interesting to see what the opposition’s reaction would be.
 
llanroc said:
Imagine what the opposition would do if we left 3 or even 4 up near the half way line. It would obviously be stupid if we conceded, but it would be interesting to see what the opposition’s reaction would be.
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F*ck it, leave all 10 players up. Might be the best chance we get all game. Rudd makes a commanding save from the corner then launches one up to our entire team in the opposition half.

Gooaaaaalllllll.

Piece o' p*ss.
 
Maguire is always going to play so might as well leave him on the half way line at corners. He’s never going to win a header so there’s not much point having him in the box.
 
ChuckD said:
Maguire is always going to play so might as well leave him on the half way line at corners. He’s never going to win a header so there’s not much point having him in the box.
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Maguire is too slow to lead any breakaway, has to be barkhuizen really
 
jgriff2296 said:
Pappa Brown, back in the day, never left a player up for corners. I couldn't understand it then and I don't understand it now.
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When John Beck brought Cambridge City over New Year once back in the day.For defending corners,he had a man on each side right on the halfway line and a man on the centre spot.The effect was we brought back four defenders to cover,and if you didnt you where exposed to a swift counter,which memory recalls and we conceded a goal on a quick counter.That John Beck was years ahead of his time wish we had him now.
 
paddysr said:
I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that last season no team conceded more goals from corners than we did. (Stat check please 😂)
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We're still conceding loads this season as well. So perhaps there's more to it, like the zonal marking along the 6 yard box with the rest marking their runners. Perhaps this is too easy to beat....
 
Tino said:
We're still conceding loads this season as well. So perhaps there's more to it, like the zonal marking along the 6 yard box with the rest marking their runners. Perhaps this is too easy to beat....
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Other than Blackburn, every other team below us has a worse goal Diff than us..... so if we arent scoring enough and if we are conceding too many, what are we doing better than the vast majority of the league ??
 
sports rehab said:
Other than Blackburn, every other team below us has a worse goal Diff than us..... so if we arent scoring enough and if we are conceding too many, what are we doing better than the vast majority of the league ??
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To be clear I meant from corners.
 
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