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Tugg Speedman;n3403823 said:
How did DJ get injured? Personally I don't believe we are unlucky, or that all these long term injuries are co-incidental. The nature of/reasons for these injuries need investigating in detail.

I'm with you on the severity of the "strain" type injuries we seem to be picking up but the "trauma" injuries suffered by Bodin and Harrop are a different situation.
 
6 months for a thigh injury seems very long, has he torn his quad or?

Either way added to the 2 acl injuries we are really not in great shape. With 4 key players out long term, minor injuries become a real headache as positional depth has been depleted.

Louis Moult at 10 if the Browne runour is true?
 
Tugg Speedman;n3403823 said:
How did DJ get injured? Personally I don't believe we are unlucky, or that all these long term injuries are co-incidental. The nature of/reasons for these injuries need investigating in detail.

Watch out Inspector Morse is about. We are unlucky. Maguire hamstrings are fucked. Harrop and Bodin injured their knee. DJ has a thigh injury. Do you think the club are trying to injure them on purpose? Injuries happen. We had two long term injuries last season - Maguire and Cunningham. This season is just the season from hell. Burke needs to come back into the team. DJ will be a huge miss.
 
White123;n3403844 said:
Watch out Inspector Morse is about. We are unlucky. Maguire hamstrings are fucked. Harrop and Bodin injured their knee. DJ has a thigh injury. Do you think the club are trying to injure them on purpose? Injuries happen. We had two long term injuries last season - Maguire and Cunningham. This season is just the season from hell. Burke needs to come back into the team. DJ will be a huge miss.

Burke's never played as a 10 for us. He also looked uncomfortable out wide. It's hard to see how/where Neil would throw him in even with these injuries. I think the most likely scenario is Browne back as the 10 (hopefully he is fit) or Ledson coming into the midfield (he must improve though).
 
White123;n3403844 said:
Watch out Inspector Morse is about. We are unlucky. Maguire hamstrings are fucked. Harrop and Bodin injured their knee. DJ has a thigh injury. Do you think the club are trying to injure them on purpose? Injuries happen. We had two long term injuries last season - Maguire and Cunningham. This season is just the season from hell. Burke needs to come back into the team. DJ will be a huge miss.

Muscular strains/tears could be due to the training regime being wrong (e.g. poor strength and conditioning, over-working, inadequate warm-ups) and I'd hope that an organisation that values its playing assets at over £70m (ahem) is taking the correct measures to protect the health and maximise the effectiveness of its assets.

Trauma type injuries to things like knees are a slightly different matter and probably more down to chance than anything else.
 
simo;n3403851 said:
Muscular strains/tears could be due to the training regime being wrong (e.g. poor strength and conditioning, over-working, inadequate warm-ups) and I'd hope that an organisation that values its playing assets at over £70m (ahem) is taking the correct measures to protect the health and maximise the effectiveness of its assets.

Trauma type injuries to things like knees are a slightly different matter and probably more down to chance than anything else.

The playing assets were valued at over £70 million using a universal formula by specialists in valuations. One of the criteria is recent international experience, another length of contract, another wages, another age. Just on those 4 criteria alone we have players of high value - they weren’t necessarily saying an open sale of all our players would raise over £70 million.
 
simo;n3403851 said:
Muscular strains/tears could be due to the training regime being wrong (e.g. poor strength and conditioning, over-working, inadequate warm-ups) and I'd hope that an organisation that values its playing assets at over £70m (ahem) is taking the correct measures to protect the health and maximise the effectiveness of its assets.

Trauma type injuries to things like knees are a slightly different matter and probably more down to chance than anything else.

Fair enough - muscular strains could be down to the training regime being wrong - maybe if they happened every month or so to a variety of players. But DJ is the first player to pick up a serious thigh injury since AN has started. Maguire picked up his injury with Ireland. The club can not have any blame for his hamstrings being fucked because if they did then Liverpool and Newcastle should be blamed for when Michael Owen was injured all the time and West Ham for Andy Carroll and Arsenal for Jack Wilshere. People just need to accept that in some cases (Maguire) players are very injury prone. There is no point looking to blame someone and it isn't the players fault it is just one of those things. People are too quick to point the finger. Neil Mellor is another case - a player who was hardly ever fit. Woods/spur/beckford are all players who are/were hardly ever fit. I'm annoyed as anyone that Maguire is injured again but anybody looking to point the finger won't get very far with it.
 
ernest;n3403833 said:
What you may not know is that there is a Preston connection. After his return from South Africa Lieutenant Chard - the individual played by Stanley Baker in the film - spent several years posted to Fulwood Barracks in fact from 19887-1892 as you can see from the very brief mention here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Chard

I wonder if he ever watched the North End.

As a 50 odd year old mature student some 10 Years or more ago I did an Economics degree (at Uclan) with a young Sam Chard.
A direct relative of said Lieutenant Chard so his family obviously stayed and still lives somewhere in the Preston area.
 
In respect of the potential loss of DJ, this is a big loss on his current form. After a very indifferent period he had started to regain some proper form and become the Player he can be.
He can be very frustrating but when he is on form he is capable of dictating play and being a Match changer.
I hope that if he is out for a period that it is not going to be for as long as feared.
Although if it so and as they often say, this gives the opportunity for someone else to step up to the plate!!
 
White123;n3403878 said:
Fair enough - muscular strains could be down to the training regime being wrong - maybe if they happened every month or so to a variety of players. But DJ is the first player to pick up a serious thigh injury since AN has started. Maguire picked up his injury with Ireland. The club can not have any blame for his hamstrings being fucked because if they did then Liverpool and Newcastle should be blamed for when Michael Owen was injured all the time and West Ham for Andy Carroll and Arsenal for Jack Wilshere. People just need to accept that in some cases (Maguire) players are very injury prone. There is no point looking to blame someone and it isn't the players fault it is just one of those things. People are too quick to point the finger. Neil Mellor is another case - a player who was hardly ever fit. Woods/spur/beckford are all players who are/were hardly ever fit. I'm annoyed as anyone that Maguire is injured again but anybody looking to point the finger won't get very far with it.

Obviously I don't have insider info and it could very well be that Maguire is a serial crock and there isn't a way of managing his body better but, that said, if you change nowt, nowt changes. Accepting that its "one of those things" is a sure-fire way to the bottom.

Mellor was signed injured and given at least one big new contract when we already knew what we were getting into. Maguire recently got a new deal. If you change nowt, nowt changes....
 
Henry Weston;n3403809 said:
I honestly think the more realistic challenge now is to ensure that we don't go down.....

And you’re probably right, which is a sad contrast to last season. Sadly the sale of key players combined with lack of investment, and then several serious injuries has led to this.

I believe next summer may be quite tough to take (again) in terms of players leaving should we not win promotion (already looks a write-off).

I feel sorry for the AN and the squad. It’s the same set of players really (the starting XI at least, minus Hugill / Cunningham) who’ve been slogging it out for 18 months now. They need help with reinforcements, and experienced, first-team reinforcements, not more youth prospects or Irish punts. It’s difficult to be hopeful about January though.
 
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