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Daniel Johnson

Daniel Johnson

I've seen nothing of Daniel this season sadly. He's obviously deserved to be here for as long as he has been, but he's passed his peak isn't he? He'll never play in his natural position for as long as Ryan is here, just like Alan won't. I imagine both players will want to consider whether that's something they're happy to do for much longer.
 
Did ranger’s ever actually make a bid for him ? Did we decline any offer or did rangers pull out of any deal . If we declined then that’s when should have got rid . He’s made it now on his £19000 a week . Hungers gone
 
The only reason people are so riled up by Johnson’s inconsistency, is because they know he actually is the best midfielder we have, aside from potentially Whiteman. If he wasn’t, then people wouldn’t deny his ability, he’d slot straight into the non conversation about players like Ledson.

McCann is praised to the high heavens on here by some, he’s okay, he’s not imposing on the games though, and gets a nod for running around a lot and putting a boot in every now and then.

I’ve said it before, you need one midfielder to sit back tick it over and put a foot in. The other two should be playmakers. How on earth Ledson gets a game is beyond me anyway, but it’s actually criminal that a team that don’t create chances start games with a midfield of Ali McCann, Ryan Ledson, and then have Ben Whiteman sat BEHIND them??? For what reason? How do you break the lines when your best ball players in Whiteman and Johnson are either in front of central defence or on the bench / out of the squad. With the other two spots used for players whose best attributes are booting people up in the air.

It’s no wonder we’re shit to watch we play three CDM’s who are all 30 yards away from three teenage forwards who’ve played about 10 championship games between them.

So we can sit and moan and say Johnson’s been as shit as the rest of them, which he has. But christ on a bike, he’s definitely worth more of a shout than Ledson and McCann in a side that can’t score for toffee, let’s at least throw the dice.
 
Tarkovsky said:
The only reason people are so riled up by Johnson’s inconsistency, is because they know he actually is the best midfielder we have, aside from potentially Whiteman. If he wasn’t, then people wouldn’t deny his ability, he’d slot straight into the non conversation about players like Ledson.

McCann is praised to the high heavens on here by some, he’s okay, he’s not imposing on the games though, and gets a nod for running around a lot and putting a boot in every now and then.

I’ve said it before, you need one midfielder to sit back tick it over and put a foot in. The other two should be playmakers. How on earth Ledson gets a game is beyond me anyway, but it’s actually criminal that a team that don’t create chances start games with a midfield of Ali McCann, Ryan Ledson, and then have Ben Whiteman sat BEHIND them??? For what reason? How do you break the lines when your best ball players in Whiteman and Johnson are either in front of central defence or on the bench / out of the squad. With the other two spots used for players whose best attributes are booting people up in the air.

It’s no wonder we’re shit to watch we play three CDM’s who are all 30 yards away from three teenage forwards who’ve played about 10 championship games between them.

So we can sit and moan and say Johnson’s been as shit as the rest of them, which he has. But christ on a bike, he’s definitely worth more of a shout than Ledson and McCann in a side that can’t score for toffee, let’s at least throw the dice.
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Hard to argue with any of that.
 
We play with three fucking defensive midfielders. Only one of them is any good - Whiteman - the other two are atrociously bad.
With that in mind I can't put up with the criticism of DJ. Yes he has good games and bad games. Who doesn't. Winds me up something rotten that he isn't played in his best position - not the only player in that situation. Manager thinks he knows best when he doesn't. I expected DJ to go to Derby in January, surprised it didn't happen - can see him going there in the summer and I don't blame him. Great servant for us.
 
pnenycx said:
He looked the business early on but not so much now.
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He looked ok early on, as did Maguire. But our expectations are so low that when they start properly establishing themselves as below average, we claim they were world beaters when they first arrived.
 
KeithLard said:
We play with three fucking defensive midfielders. Only one of them is any good - Whiteman - the other two are atrociously bad.
With that in mind I can't put up with the criticism of DJ. Yes he has good games and bad games. Who doesn't. Winds me up something rotten that he isn't played in his best position - not the only player in that situation. Manager thinks he knows best when he doesn't. I expected DJ to go to Derby in January, surprised it didn't happen - can see him going there in the summer and I don't blame him. Great servant for us.
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Thats the key isn't it. RL doesn't want attacking skilful midfielders. He wants 3 who will sit in front of the back 5 and try and break up play.
 
Aitch said:
Thats the key isn't it. RL doesn't want attacking skilful midfielders. He wants 3 who will sit in front of the back 5 and try and break up play.
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That's because of the painful lack of pace in the defence . The back 3 have to sit very deep to avoid being turned and exposed , the wingbacks then have to protect the defence rather than bombing forward and the midfield has to drop deep as an extra layer of protection . Leaves the front 2 isolated . No wonder we never score . At times its a back 8 . And we end up with the only pacy defender and the only creative midfielder sat in the stands .
 
Staffordwhite said:
DJ is our best player, ability-wise.

But even his biggest advocates must acknowledge he’s frighteningly inconsistent; if not he’d have been snapped up by someone else years ago.

It’s no coincidence he’s clocked up so many appearances at a club that is grateful for one good game in 4/5/6 (take your pick).

Having said that, he did have some value in the transfer market but now he’s another one coasting/avoiding injury in his final season before walking away for free. #WDP

Surely, with finances so tight, the club should have a clear policy that says if you only have a year left, you either sign a new deal or go on the transfer list.

Admittedly, there might be no takers, but at least there’d be a policy in place to stop us getting into this ridiculous situation again.
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Astonishingly our ‘policy’, and one that Peter is immensely proud of (genuinely), I’d one of the causes of these situations whereby players run down their contracts.

We pay agents fees in instalments over the course of the players contract, whereas at most clubs agents fees are somewhat ‘front-ended’ with a significant (if not full) fee paid to the agent upon the contract being signed.

The agent is obviously therefore less incentivised to find their player a new club while the player has significant time remaining on their contract. In theory this should help re: player retention, the problem being that in reality we probably don’t have many players whom we are at risk of losing to a bigger club.

It’s a policy that doesn’t work anyway, if anyone had bid £8m for Riis in summer, him and his agent would have been off like a shot regardless of how many future instalments his agent was due from PNE. His agent would just take a small cut of the transfer fee as recompense. Agents must love dealing with PR, the Diaby and Onomah deals being the latest in the catalogue of poor deals.
 
Thewhites. said:
Astonishingly our ‘policy’, and one that Peter is immensely proud of (genuinely), I’d one of the causes of these situations whereby players run down their contracts.

We pay agents fees in instalments over the course of the players contract, whereas at most clubs agents fees are somewhat ‘front-ended’ with a significant (if not full) fee paid to the agent upon the contract being signed.

The agent is obviously therefore less incentivised to find their player a new club while the player has significant time remaining on their contract. In theory this should help re: player retention, the problem being that in reality we probably don’t have many players whom we are at risk of losing to a bigger club.

It’s a policy that doesn’t work anyway, if anyone had bid £8m for Riis in summer, him and his agent would have been off like a shot regardless of how many future instalments his agent was due from PNE. His agent would just take a small cut of the transfer fee as recompense. Agents must love dealing with PR, the Diaby and Onomah deals being the latest in the catalogue of poor deals.
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When we embark on our usual paying-up of unwanted players before the end of their contracts, does that also involve a settlement on any outstanding agents fees?

And weren't we told we did receive a sizeable bid for Riis in the summer, and only Ryan Lowe's insistence kept him at the club?
 
MattPNE17 said:
Lowe didn't change the team after the Rovers game - he couldn't, because we somehow managed to injure half a dozen of our senior players whilst not playing football.

The exact same starting lineup that beat Blackburn also lost to QPR and Huddersfield.

He's not gone back to that kind of formation with one striker and two "creative" players behind them since those matches, and I doubt he will again now that he's signed Cannon and Delap, got Parrott back and has Evans. The preferred formation involves two strikers, after all.

I'd love to see us play with McCann and Whiteman as a two and Johnson as a 10 behind two strikers - if anything, just to get someone who isn't one of the forwards to be tasked with doing something that's not defending. At the moment, the strikers are so far from the rest of the team that we might as well call it a 8-0-2 formation.
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Tbh we normally get half way through the season and have a shit load of injuries i wonder if its the player being a high injury risk or another reason
 
My mind is blown by that stat of just 9 shots and none on target this season from DJ.

This is a player that's previously scored over 40 goals at Championship level for us, including 12 in one season.

Criminal how we've wasted him this season. 13 league starts. Such a waste, should be building your team round a player of DJ's quality not practically forcing him out the door.
 
Thracia said:
When we embark on our usual paying-up of unwanted players before the end of their contracts, does that also involve a settlement on any outstanding agents fees?

And weren't we told we did receive a sizeable bid for Riis in the summer, and only Ryan Lowe's insistence kept him at the club?
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I didn't believe that for one minute... Leopards don't change their spots so I'm assuming that " sizeable offer " either wasn't forthcoming or wasn't as sizeable as was made out.
 
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