Daniel Johnson

[Thewhites.]

When we embark on our usual paying-up of unwanted players before the end of their contracts, does that also involve a settlement on any outstanding agents fees?

And weren't we told we did receive a sizeable bid for Riis in the summer, and only Ryan Lowe's insistence kept him at the club?

Yes, we have to settle the outstanding agents fees when we pay off the player (particularly given that the agent is the one negotiating the settlement on behalf of the player). The agents fees are pretty insignificant relative to the player’s salary, but still amount to circa £20k every six months for the players at the top end of the wage ceiling.

Re: Riis, we’re told multiple things every week by the scouser which are absolute BS. If an offer anywhere North of £5-6m had been on the table (excluding add-ons etc), he would have been gone regardless of whatever nonsense RL was easily sold by PR that particular week.

 

[California_PNE]

My mind is blown by that stat of just 9 shots and none on target this season from DJ.

This is a player that's previously scored over 40 goals at Championship level for us, including 12 in one season.

Criminal how we've wasted him this season. 13 league starts. Such a waste, should be building your team round a player of DJ's quality not practically forcing him out the door.

Queue the response... 'he turns it on when he wants ye know'

 

[pne1881]

My mind is blown by that stat of just 9 shots and none on target this season from DJ.

This is a player that's previously scored over 40 goals at Championship level for us, including 12 in one season.

Criminal how we've wasted him this season. 13 league starts. Such a waste, should be building your team round a player of DJ's quality not practically forcing him out the door.

I can't get my head round this "we should be building the team round him" TBH.

 

[SF]

Only player we have left with ability on the ball, who else do we build it around?

Ledson, who has wooden mallets for feet? Or McCann, who plays like a spaniel chasing a fly-away?

 

[pne1881]

Only player we have left with ability on the ball, who else do we build it around?

Ledson, who has wooden mallets for feet? Or McCann, who plays like a spaniel chasing a fly-away?

I get that but do we build a team around a player who has undoubted ability but only shows it 1 game in 10?

 

[SF]

I get that but do we build a team around a player who has undoubted ability but only shows it 1 game in 10?

We have a large number of players who show no ability in 46.

DJ has no chance of regaining form when he's dropped for Woodburn as soon as he has a quiet half. Say what you want about McAvoy, but at least he tried to get the most out of DJ and Riis. Our only matchwinners.

 

[California_PNE]

We have a large number of players who show no ability in 46.

DJ has no chance of regaining form when he's dropped for Woodburn as soon as he has a quiet half. Say what you want about McAvoy, but at least he tried to get the most out of DJ and Riis. Our only matchwinners.

That lazy-shit anti-dj smashed to pieces in one post; nice work @SF

 

[pne1881]

We have a large number of players who show no ability in 46.

DJ has no chance of regaining form when he's dropped for Woodburn as soon as he has a quiet half. Say what you want about McAvoy, but at least he tried to get the most out of DJ and Riis. Our only matchwinners.

True but we don't advocate building a team around them.

It would be better for both parties if he moved on in the summer which he probably will do anyway.

 

[pne1881]

That lazy-shit anti-dj smashed to pieces in one post; nice work @SF

It's called debate / opinion.

He deserves a new deal based on his performances (not his potential performances) in your opinion then?

 

[SF]

It's called debate / opinion.

He deserves a new deal based on his performances (not his potential performances) in your opinion then?

He's worth one based on past performances under a competent manager imo. But the club won't match his current £17k a week deal, so it's moot really.

Browne will be interesting, on the same money but younger with some resale value. Can't imagine he'd accept a pay cut.

For one DJ wage, we probably get Woodburn, Olosunde, and Cornell. Business...

 

[JJ_PNE]

DJ is a number 10. Whiteman isn’t a sitting midfielder. McCann isn’t an 8, Browne isn’t a RWB, Brady isn’t a LWB.

If I was making a pasta dish but only had rice I’d make risotto instead.

Even if it was Basmati rice and not Arborio?

 

[Jack Daniels]

My mind is blown by that stat of just 9 shots and none on target this season from DJ.

This is a player that's previously scored over 40 goals at Championship level for us, including 12 in one season.

Criminal how we've wasted him this season. 13 league starts. Such a waste, should be building your team round a player of DJ's quality not practically forcing him out the door.

(1) How many penalties has he scored as that inflates his "midfield goal scoring record"?

(2) £19k pw is why no deal will be struck. PNE won't pay that, let alone any increase and DJ won't take the oh so obvious almost 50% reduction to bring him back in line with others.

(3) Whilst he does go "missing", he is still a quality player.

 

[pne1881]

He's worth one based on past performances under a competent manager imo. But the club won't match his current £17k a week deal, so it's moot really.

Browne will be interesting, on the same money but younger with some resale value. Can't imagine he'd accept a pay cut.

For one DJ wage, we probably get Woodburn, Olosunde, and Cornell. Business...

We've done that far too many times though IMHO.

He would benefit from a new start & fresh challenge somewhere else.

As has been posted by someone else we would benefit from 2 hungry young midfielders that would be paid combined what DJ would cost on his own.

Although where those 2 are coming from is another question.....

 

[SF]

We've done that far too many times though IMHO.

He would benefit from a new start & fresh challenge somewhere else.

As has been posted by someone else we would benefit from 2 hungry young midfielders that would be paid combined what DJ would cost on his own.

Although where those 2 are coming from is another question.....

28yr old Duane Holmes is seemingly earmarked as one of them.

 

[RibbletonWhite2.0]

I can't get my head round this "we should be building the team round him" TBH.

Quality player but he’s 31 in October and way past his prime. We shouldn’t be building our team around someone who best days are behind him.

What we should be doing is bringing in a younger, hungrier attacking midfielder and building the team around them. But we all know that will never ever happen.

 

[pnertop]

Absolutely amazed to come on this forum tonight and not see this thread high up. The only reason we won that game today was because DJ took it by the scruff of the neck for 25 mins in the second half. Funny that happens when we play him to his strengths isn’t it.
First half might be one of the worst football matches I’ve seen for a long time.
Last 20 was nervy stuff

 

[Mer5eywhite]

Absolutely amazed to come on this forum tonight and not see this thread high up. The only reason we won that game today was because DJ took it by the scruff of the neck for 25 mins in the second half. Funny that happens when we play him to his strengths isn’t it.
First half might be one of the worst football matches I’ve seen for a long time.
Last 20 was nervy stuff

Feel exactly the same.
I’ll post more in a bit but for now I just wanted to say I’m equally surprised people haven’t posted more about this.

 

[BAJPNE]

Yeah he was top drawer yesterday, funny that the manager calls upon him in midfield when his job is on the line!!

 

[pnertop]

He’s our best player when you play him correctly.
I accept that given the current club situation there’s likely to be a parting of ways this summer
But let’s enjoy him while we have him
Been an absolutely superb servant to this club and inconsistent as he has been games like today are examples of where we’ll miss players like him in seasons to come when we’re relying on loans and one year deals to pack the squad

 

[Mooney]

To me it’s simple. He’s our best creative midfielder by an absolute mile. Leaving him out of the squad the other week was imo a sacking offence.

Peter, offer the lad 2 years for Christ’s sake. Play to his strengths and guess what? We win games! Sorry to those who get annoyed that he can’t tackle but he covers ground, closes off passing angles, makes great runs to create space for others and now, a new skill. Chucks mud from the penalty spot at the keeper! Legend. Love the guy and we need to keep him.