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Daniel Johnson

Daniel Johnson

That's kind of a separate discussion - are the owners making best use of the money they put in? The answer depends on whether you think survival or the play-offs are the goal. I think the club (from owner to manager) point at wherever we end up every season and declare "see? Mission accomplished!"

I don't think anyone has suggested a Championship club our size can survive without heavy owner investment - that goes with the territory. TH accepted that. But do these new owners accept that?

We have cut our budget this season - from a high that was partly caused by Covid, but also partly caused by a wacky player and manager recruitment policy - and it looks like the cuts are continuing this summer.

We didn't do very well with what we already had - just 7 home wins and 20 home goals, just 25 away goals scored, most failures-to-score in the division, no goalscorer making double figures, fewer league points than the Frankie season - so having even less of it next season surely only points one way?

Does that point towards the players Lowe inherited on long term contracts (18 months+) who have not been performing and him having to slowly move them along whilst trying to keep a happy camp.

DJ and Browne as an example with the long term contracts have not translated that onto the pitch.

Like you say the wacky recruitment policy has cost us and might take a few windows to sort out.
 
Does that point towards the players Lowe inherited on long term contracts (18 months+) who have not been performing and him having to slowly move them along whilst trying to keep a happy camp.

DJ and Browne as an example with the long term contracts have not translated that onto the pitch.

Like you say the wacky recruitment policy has cost us and might take a few windows to sort out.
I think some of the biggest letdowns in the squad were this season's new signings - Brady, Woodburn, Onomah, each for different reasons delivering much less than we required.

You say DJ and Browne's value was "not translated onto the pitch", but our form was in a tailspin until DJ was restored to the squad. We won't have that option when DJ is gone.

A few windows from now, we'll just have a new crop of one-year mercenaries and loans turning up, like every window. It's just going to be a fresh roll of the dice every year from now on.
 
I think some of the biggest letdowns in the squad were this season's new signings - Brady, Woodburn, Onomah, each for different reasons delivering much less than we required.

You say DJ and Browne's value was "not translated onto the pitch", but our form was in a tailspin until DJ was restored to the squad. We won't have that option when DJ is gone.

A few windows from now, we'll just have a new crop of one-year mercenaries and loans turning up, like every window. It's just going to be a fresh roll of the dice every year from now on.
A fresh roll of the dice with an ever decreasing budget.....🤔...
 
Does that point towards the players Lowe inherited on long term contracts (18 months+) who have not been performing and him having to slowly move them along whilst trying to keep a happy camp.

DJ and Browne as an example with the long term contracts have not translated that onto the pitch.

Like you say the wacky recruitment policy has cost us and might take a few windows to sort out.
The issue for me is that the tools necessary to sort it all out - financial support and recruitment / decision making quality, are most probably not in place.

Its a right fucking mess and its going to get worse.
 
A few windows from now, we'll just have a new crop of one-year mercenaries and loans turning up, like every window. It's just going to be a fresh roll of the dice every year from now on.

Like a football version of DIY SOS but Nick Knowles has to go back to the same house each week to unpick the mess he made last week
 
I think some of the biggest letdowns in the squad were this season's new signings - Brady, Woodburn, Onomah, each for different reasons delivering much less than we required.

You say DJ and Browne's value was "not translated onto the pitch", but our form was in a tailspin until DJ was restored to the squad. We won't have that option when DJ is gone.

A few windows from now, we'll just have a new crop of one-year mercenaries and loans turning up, like every window. It's just going to be a fresh roll of the dice every year from now on.

Yes completely agree, Brady and Onomah have looked good in flashes but they're probably the sort of big ego personalities we don't need around the club.

I mean since they signed their extensions, Browne has been largely crap and DJ indifferent, you could argue he only shows up when the opposition are dire or he's not getting a new deal so needs to put himself in the shop window.

I'd hope not with your last sentence, but history will say you're bang on, be an interesting summer. Hopefully Lowe and Insights actually have something to work with due to a big exodus.

Something needs to change for sure.
 
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Some of the figures in that weekly wage chart are all that is wrong with modern football.

Our average wage is 500k p.a.

Think about that for a second & then think about some of the performances this season, particulalrly at home where certain players can hardly pass it straight to their team mate never mind anything else.

Let's be clear I don't blame the players at all cos if someone was willing to pay me that kind of money I'd be all over it but the amount of money in the game, not just at this level but in general is obscene.
 
Some of the figures in that weekly wage chart are all that is wrong with modern football.

Our average wage is 500k p.a.

Think about that for a second & then think about some of the performances this season, particulalrly at home where certain players can hardly pass it straight to their team mate never mind anything else.

Let's be clear I don't blame the players at all cos if someone was willing to pay me that kind of money I'd be all over it but the amount of money in the game, not just at this level but in general is obscene.
You have to take your hat off to Rotherham.
 
I mean since they signed their extensions, Browne has been largely crap and DJ indifferent, you could argue he only shows up when the opposition are dire or he's not getting a new deal so needs to put himself in the shop window.
I don't agree with that assessment, of either player.

DJ will be missed when he's gone.
 
I love DJ. My favourite player of my adulthood. My first game that I remember is from 1997. My list of favourites from my years watching are:

Fuller
Gregan
Eyres
Nugent
Johnson

I stopped going every game during Westleys years. Since then I've gone to away games with mates who support other teams and the odd home game. Every mate of mine, bar none, says that he's our best player. I fully agree.

I'll miss him tremendously.
 
I love DJ. My favourite player of my adulthood. My first game that I remember is from 1997. My list of favourites from my years watching are:

Fuller
Gregan
Eyres
Nugent
Johnson

I stopped going every game during Westleys years. Since then I've gone to away games with mates who support other teams and the odd home game. Every mate of mine, bar none, says that he's our best player. I fully agree.

I'll miss him tremendously.
Similar to me and a list of players almost identical to mine, just missing the best of the bunch...

In fact I'd have Sean St Ledger on mine too, what a player
 
Similar to me and a list of players almost identical to mine, just missing the best of the bunch...

In fact I'd have Sean St Ledger on mine too, what a player

Mawene was 6th for me. I loved Iain Anderson as a kid too. Not sure who you're referring to unfortunately, probably kick myself when you say it, unless you say Browne 🤣.
 
Rudd < Woodman
Fisher > Potts
Clarke = Storey
Davies > Lindsay
Hunts < Hughes
Earl < Fernandez
Pearson > Whiteman
Browne = Browne
DJ = DJ
Gallagher > Ledson
Welsh < McCann
Maguire > Delap
Robinson > Parrott
Barkhuizen < Cannon

Not loads different really I don't think. Just had a much better manager who got more out of the players we had I think and played a more enjoyable style of football (2017/18, before it got stale).
 
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