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Daniel Johnson

This is one of the worst decisions in a long line of monumental fuck ups in this clubs running over the last few years, if he doesn’t want to stay then fair enough because he wont sign and you cant force him too however it feels like he wants to stay and but wont match what he wants to be paid, imagine if we tried to “buy” a similar player to DJ in todays market? He’d cost us £4m / £5m plus wages, and yet we wont keep him for a couple of grand a week more than what he currently earns, its an absolute disgrace, like him or not there’s absolutely NO WAY we replace the quality that he does have with the budget our ownership model wants.
 
JB said:
This is one of the worst decisions in a long line of monumental fuck ups in this clubs running over the last few years, if he doesn’t want to stay then fair enough because he wont sign and you cant force him too however it feels like he wants to stay and but wont match what he wants to be paid, imagine if we tried to “buy” a similar player to DJ in todays market? He’d cost us £4m / £5m plus wages, and yet we wont keep him for a couple of grand a week more than what he currently earns, its an absolute disgrace, like him or not there’s absolutely NO WAY we replace the quality that he does have with the budget our ownership model wants.
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...and we're letting a great player go for less than £50K, i.e. sweet fuck all.

It would've been better business to give him a new contract then put him for sale in the Jan transfer window.

I predict that next season is going to be one of the worst in living memory (including the Westley years!).
 
LostinSpace said:
...and we're letting a great player go for less than £50K, i.e. sweet fuck all.

It would've been better business to give him a new contract then put him for sale in the Jan transfer window.

I predict that next season is going to be one of the worst in living memory (including the Westley years!).
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Forward thinking and investment /speculate to accumulate ?............ Oh come on LiS.. 🤣
 
I feel the club will offer him a new contract but i feel its going to down to him and what he wants to do, i do think he wont be offered much more money anywhere else as his reported 17-18k a week wages will be a number some clubs wont even consider but if he does leave i will miss him a lot, such a composed player when being played in his natural position.
 
LostinSpace said:
KR might actually get this if she reads the forum but I'm 100% sure she doesn't. Too many spread sheets to gaze lovingly at.
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KR is likely very practical and sees football as the loss making enterprise it is. I think she'd rather shift the millstone ASAP, than speculate to accumulate.
 
Ando60 said:
Where do you drink pre-match JD….

I could come along and join your gang next season if you are up for some new anecdotes…
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This pub was packed out until Ando arrived..
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HunterLionheart said:
KR is likely very practical and sees football as the loss making enterprise it is. I think she'd rather shift the millstone ASAP, than speculate to accumulate.
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She seems to see it like an accountant would, all they see is numbers in the here and now, they are not business minded or strategic thinkers. I know this, I've worked with plenty and have come across zero exceptions to this rule. I've nothing against them per se, they have a job to do, but TH made a big mistake giving one the responsibility to, in effect, manage the business.
 
HunterLionheart said:
KR is likely very practical and sees football as the loss making enterprise it is. I think she'd rather shift the millstone ASAP, than speculate to accumulate.
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Can't disagree. But then why not off load the club quick and cheap to stop it hemorrhaging the family bank account any further? Any sane person would do, especially one that has no interest. .....

There's more to this than meets the eye. Somehow this club is not the massive loss maker to them that is made out. I sincerely believe ( and have done for years ) that there is some " colourful/creative " accountancy involved behind the scenes........... but it's way above my pay grade and knowledge.
 
LostinSpace said:
She's an accountant, all they see is numbers in the here and now, they are not business minded or strategic thinkers. I know this, I've worked with plenty and have come across zero exceptions to this rule. I've nothing against them per se, they have a job to do, but TH made a big mistake giving one the responsibility to, in effect, manage the business.
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see #134.......... My dad was one btw .... I'll tell you his nature and stories some other time but you are correct. No flexibility.
 
Liberation said:
Can't disagree. But then why not off load the club quick and cheap to stop it hemorrhaging the family bank account any further? Any sane person would do, especially one that has no interest. .....

There's more to this than meets the eye. Somehow this club is not the massive loss maker to them that is made out. I sincerely believe ( and have done for years ) that there is some " colourful/creative " accountancy involved behind the scenes........... but it's way above my pay grade and knowledge.
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It depends how the whole “empire” is seen by HMRC, the losses could be offset against tax from the other TH businesses.
 
Liberation said:
Can't disagree. But then why not off load the club quick and cheap to stop it hemorrhaging the family bank account any further? Any sane person would do, especially one that has no interest. .....

There's more to this than meets the eye. Somehow this club is not the massive loss maker to them that is made out. I sincerely believe ( and have done for years ) that there is some " colourful/creative " accountancy involved behind the scenes........... but it's way above my pay grade and knowledge.
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Comes back to same issue evey time, who can fund the losses? So imo there no more than meets the eye, its loss a making set up, maybe there are savings and efficiencies possible. I dunno what buyers there are- who knows. So there's a lot of cash pumped into the club, how could it be used better? Christ almighty there's glaring and obvious opportunities we can all see, all in the capable hands of pr 🤦🏼‍♂️
 
LostinSpace said:
She's an accountant, all they see is numbers in the here and now, they are not business minded or strategic thinkers. I know this, I've worked with plenty and have come across zero exceptions to this rule. I've nothing against them per se, they have a job to do, but TH made a big mistake giving one the responsibility to, in effect, manage the business.
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KR is a solicitor by trade although she isn't currently registered to practice in the UK. She might still hold her practicing certificate in the IOM but Wordon LTD are currently paying her £200,000+ per month so she might have placed herself on light duties.
 
LostinSpace said:
It depends how the whole “empire” is seen by HMRC, the losses could be offset against tax from the other TH businesses.
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I really don't understand it and never will but something smacks of " not quite right " and always has done.... Even the cleverest on here have never been able to explain it from a business point of view......... Maybe PNE was his trainset and he just wanted his money back . Although that could only be achieved by investing in a good infrastructure and getting to the prem but he was too tight( careful) to do it. Actually he did it once ( ish ) by letting Degs and Irvine waste a fortune...... Talk about backing the wrong horses ( pun intended). Then he bought the club for ten bob to get his own back 😀

Billionaires obviously think differently to the rest of us so logic will never apply...................... And it doesn't explain why the club hasn't been shifted PDQ to stem the big " losses ".......... It's the first thing an accountant would do.
 
Oh Hughie Costello said:
KR is a solicitor by trade although she isn't currently registered to practice in the UK. She might still hold her practicing certificate in the IOM but Wordon LTD are currently paying her £200,000+ per month so she might have placed herself on light duties.
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Please tell you've mis-typed here.

£10m PA!! 😵 🙁 🤢
 
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