Daniel Johnson

[Thracia]

Why the fuck is Lowe wheeled out ( and is stupid enough to play ball) when contract negotiations have got jack shit to do with him?

He gets asked the questions in pre- and post-match presscalls, then his quotes are reported as if he brought the topic up himself, to create standalone Lancs.Live and LEP articles.

His February quotes - when he said "we've got to now get to the end of March, early April and I'll sit down with Peter Ridsdale and Craig Hemmings and we'll discuss what we've got going forward" (none of which transpired) - were reported in the lead-up to the Burnley away game, which is when he dropped Johnson from the squad and started Woodburn instead (subbed at half time), leading in the aftermath to the "player revolt" that saw Johnson reinstated.

I'm sure the journo's questions about contracts prior to the Burnley game weren't apropos of nothing, including a follow-up question quoted in the February LEP piece - "And if they approach [Lowe] looking for a new contract?" - well, whoever could they mean!

 

[rem]

He gets asked the questions in pre- and post-match presscalls, then his quotes are reported as if he brought the topic up himself, to create standalone Lancs.Live and LEP articles.

His February quotes - when he said "we've got to now get to the end of March, early April and I'll sit down with Peter Ridsdale and Craig Hemmings and we'll discuss what we've got going forward" (none of which transpired) - were reported in the lead-up to the Burnley away game, which is when he dropped Johnson from the squad and started Woodburn instead (subbed at half time), leading in the aftermath to the "player revolt" that saw Johnson reinstated.

I'm sure the journo's questions about contracts prior to the Burnley game weren't apropos of nothing, including a follow-up question quoted in the February LEP piece - "And if they approach [Lowe] looking for a new contract?" - well, whoever could they mean!

Sorry but you have lost me

 

[Final Stand]

What superb management that looks like. Remove your only creative player from the squad entirely in a game you know you’ll be dominated in and relying on absolute scraps. Then after doing that, you and your colleagues sit stony faced on the bench when you’re totally outplayed without even trying to counteract what was happening on the pitch.

Shambolic, conning the North End faithful.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Two months ago my missus verbally agreed to give me one blowie a week. I’ve not had one yet.

I once got excited when my wife said she was going to blow my penis. She came home with a load of shopping bags. She'd actually said she was going to blow my BONUS.

 

[diggerb]

Two months ago my missus verbally agreed to give me one blowie a

Did she specify giving you a blowie or giving a blowie. She might be fulfilling the terms of her verbal agreement.

Steady on guys, we don't want a blow by blow account !!!

 

[Doc Brown]

Have you heard any differently?

Chip Barm has been a good source of info for years. What makes you think they're suddenly not?

I’m wondering what the basis for posting the rumour is.

 

[Bodney Rewes]

I’m wondering what the basis for posting the rumour is.

Because they've heard it from their usual source/sources

 

[Liberation]

He gets asked the questions in pre- and post-match presscalls, then his quotes are reported as if he brought the topic up himself, to create standalone Lancs.Live and LEP articles.

His February quotes - when he said "we've got to now get to the end of March, early April and I'll sit down with Peter Ridsdale and Craig Hemmings and we'll discuss what we've got going forward" (none of which transpired) - were reported in the lead-up to the Burnley away game, which is when he dropped Johnson from the squad and started Woodburn instead (subbed at half time), leading in the aftermath to the "player revolt" that saw Johnson reinstated.

I'm sure the journo's questions about contracts prior to the Burnley game weren't apropos of nothing, including a follow-up question quoted in the February LEP piece - "And if they approach [Lowe] looking for a new contract?" - well, whoever could they mean!

I appreciate he's going to be asked certain questions ( quite rightly ) but perhaps a simple reply of " that's not something you should be asking me " might be more prudent?

 

[Doc Brown]

Because they've heard it from their usual source/sources

Fair enough.

I can only speak for myself but imo such rumours are only worth sharing if they’re backed up by some proper evidence or at the very least a decent track record.

We’ve not had a poster with that since the now dormant @Korol.

Regards CB, without re-opening an old can of worms…I can only take so seriously the input of a person whom I believe to be the alter ego of another poster.

Their ITK content is pretty hit and miss to say the least, and usually less than objective.

 

[Thracia]

without re-opening an old can of worms…

Yeah, you've done a great job of that.

 

[Bodney Rewes]

Fair enough.

I can only speak for myself but imo such rumours are only worth sharing if they’re backed up by some proper evidence or at the very least a decent track record.

We’ve not had a poster with that since the now dormant @Korol.

Regards CB, without re-opening an old can of worms…I can only take so seriously the input of a person whom I believe to be the alter ego of another poster.

Their ITK content is pretty hit and miss to say the least, and usually less than objective.

The issue is whatever information the ITKers are gonna hear is gonna be second-hand/third-hand. It's extremely unlikely that any of them are employees of the club at the level where you'd hear this information directly. It's more likely that they know someone who is (be it a friend, relative, neighbour, etc.). They could even be hearing it from someone who knows someone who works at that level (adding another person in between).

On top of that, it's extremely unlikely that they're hearing it from Ridsdale (who would be the most central source for all information relating to our club). Whoever they're all getting their information from, the people working at the high up level might be getting their information from someone else close to the events. So you could end up with a Chinese whispers situation where the information that has been passed along is slightly twisted as it goes through each person.

If we look at the hype that was being built last season as an example, the ITKers could've been hearing their information from their usual sources who were hearing the information from Ridsdale (who would be just trying to build up hype).

The point is we may not always receive accurate information but that doesn't necessarily mean that everything they share is wrong. The reason Korol could be seen as more accurate is simply because they don't share information as often. Chip shares information so much that occasionally they may share slightly incorrect information.

Fans on this forum are smart enough to recognise a bullshit ITKer because there's only so many times they could get lucky. We should be grateful that we have people who share information that fans should hear

 

[lenny]

What superb management that looks like. Remove your only creative player from the squad entirely in a game you know you’ll be dominated in and relying on absolute scraps. Then after doing that, you and your colleagues sit stony faced on the bench when you’re totally outplayed without even trying to counteract what was happening on the pitch.

But who’s idea was it to leave DJ out , Lowe or higher up whoever it was deserves sacking , not saying it would have got us more points but that decision alone could well have scuppered our play off challenge .

 

[raefil]

I appreciate he's going to be asked certain questions ( quite rightly ) but perhaps a simple reply of " that's not something you should be asking me " might be more prudent?

And the he will be accused of being evasive,

Its at the stage now, on here anyway, that whatever the gaffer says or doesnt say will be torn to pieces and shredded in minute detail.

This hatred runs deep, sadly.

 

[Final Stand]

And the he will be accused of being evasive,

Its at the stage now, on here anyway, that whatever the gaffer says or doesnt say will be torn to pieces and shredded in minute detail.

This hatred runs deep, sadly.

“Hatred ?” sounds a tad OTT for me ?

 

[Thracia]

“Hatred ?” sounds a tad OTT for me ?

Some people find reading and understanding such a difficult concept, they have to pretend it involves "hatred" and "shredding in minute detail".

Ignore them, it's utter horseshit.

 

[Liberation]

And the he will be accused of being evasive,

Its at the stage now, on here anyway, that whatever the gaffer says or doesnt say will be torn to pieces and shredded in minute detail.

This hatred runs deep, sadly.

I don't know why when it's not in his power or paygrade. It would be a very reasonable answer... And I'm not anti Lowe btw but do wonder if he has a clue what he's doing other than blather.

PS... "Hatred" is a strong word and as an intelligent bloke, you should stop flinging it about as freely as you do. Knock it on the head.

 

[Former user.]

I’m wondering what the basis for posting the rumour is.

It was mentioned at the time by another poster to be fair.

It is very relevent to the conversation because if we really wanted DJ to stay he would not have been left out of the sqaud completely at Burnley and then play every single game since.

There are other players who have gone missing last season and previous seasons for non footballing reasons.

Agree about not being very objective anymore.

I used to just post information.

However, no alter ego.

I do not like the way the club is run and who is running it and not afraid to call it out.

Not that I have to justify myself to anyone but last summer was a farce with too many people trying to protect their own interests than those of the football club.

 

[raefil]

I don't know why when it's not in his power or paygrade. It would be a very reasonable answer... And I'm not anti Lowe btw but do wonder if he has a clue what he's doing other than blather.

PS... "Hatred" is a strong word and as an intelligent bloke, you should stop flinging it about as freely as you do. Knock it on the head.

How many times have i told you to stop exaggerating 🙂

 

[raefil]

Some people find reading and understanding such a difficult concept, they have to pretend it involves "hatred" and "shredding in minute detail".

Ignore them, it's utter horseshit.

Just a few examples with all posters usernames removed.

You were saying?

 

[Paul of Chorley]

The issue is whatever information the ITKers are gonna hear is gonna be second-hand/third-hand. It's extremely unlikely that any of them are employees of the club at the level where you'd hear this information directly. It's more likely that they know someone who is (be it a friend, relative, neighbour, etc.). They could even be hearing it from someone who knows someone who works at that level (adding another person in between).

On top of that, it's extremely unlikely that they're hearing it from Ridsdale (who would be the most central source for all information relating to our club). Whoever they're all getting their information from, the people working at the high up level might be getting their information from someone else close to the events. So you could end up with a Chinese whispers situation where the information that has been passed along is slightly twisted as it goes through each person.

If we look at the hype that was being built last season as an example, the ITKers could've been hearing their information from their usual sources who were hearing the information from Ridsdale (who would be just trying to build up hype).

The point is we may not always receive accurate information but that doesn't necessarily mean that everything they share is wrong. The reason Korol could be seen as more accurate is simply because they don't share information as often. Chip shares information so much that occasionally they may share slightly incorrect information.

Fans on this forum are smart enough to recognise a bullshit ITKer because there's only so many times they could get lucky. We should be grateful that we have people who share information that fans should hear

There are only few I trust on here and chip barm is the main one I trust with the info