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David (ned ) Kelly

David (ned ) Kelly

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nantothree

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Can any one tell me are we still paying Ned to stay on gardening leave, How long do the club intend to fork out this money, it surely must be comming up to the cost of a compensation package by now, Surely it is time to add up the twelve months compo and the twelve months gardening pay and lets get on, It has gone on long enough, It is obvious that Billy Davis is managing prefectly well without Ned, Come on Derek you have proved your point now for the sake of the club sign the papers and let go, Or if not then i would suggest you change your legal advisors because both you and Ned are not going to back down. A good legal advisor would never have allowed this to go on for so long, unless there is a cause we do not know about, We do know that Ned has an open ended rolling contract that means it could go on for evermore or untill he retires, and by that time he will have been paid enough wages to cover the compensation due to the club, We do not need to go back on why he did this or we did that, that is all in the past but what we do need to know is why are we still paying out this money.😕
 
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i was under the impression that kelly wasnt on gardening leave and was actually working??...i may have the total wrong end of the stick to be fair tho
 
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Tbh, I think Ned is probably down at Derby right now helping out his wee scottish chum. Just because he isn't stood next to him on the match doesn't mean he isn't there tbh.

Let go IMO, and let him go to Derby. Who cares anymore? We're higher than them, and we have better management too.
 
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hawks26 said:
i was under the impression that kelly wasnt on gardening leave and was actually working??...i may have the total wrong end of the stick to be fair tho
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On the official web site he is still down as Assistant manager😕


Aqueous let go IMO let him go to Derby. Who cares anymore. said:
Exactly We are doing very well without him, so why are we still forking out for him ?😕
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i noticed that he was still listed on offish site as assistant manager as well. there is obviously more to the situation than we need to know about and I reackon the clubs board knows what its doing for the best.
 
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mickey1852000 said:
i noticed that he was still listed on offish site as assistant manager as well. there is obviously more to the situation than we need to know about and I reackon the clubs board knows what its doing for the best.
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Well lets remember that next time we are reminded that we have no money to spend on decent players, with that amount of pay out each year and also the £63.000 we pay rent to FOPNE for the offices.
 
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IF, and I don't for one minute think that he is, he is currently advising the poison dwarf then I'm sure he would be in breach of contract and could then be dismissed without compensation. No doubt he is in indirect contact with Billy (I have a bigger club) Davies but that would be hard to prove. However Ned must by now be getting fed up with the whole situation as will his lttle friend, so hang on in there Derek - they will crack soon and you can get rid of him for free. Sorry Nan but I think that for once Derek is doing the right thing by keeping him hanging on even if it is costing the club. The way Derby got all our backroom staff should mean they should pay for the 'aussie bushman' if they really want him and if they don't then the longer he's out of football and PNE (and Derby) continue to do well without his services then the less chance other clubs will think his services are needed.
 
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If Kelly wants to go to Derby, or anywhere else, then all he needs to do his drop his compensation claim.
Keep the greedy little oik on gardening leave as a matter of pinciple - some things are worth more than a few bob.

Besides which, its hardly causing us any problems...
 
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nantothree said:
Can any one tell me are we still paying Ned to stay on gardening leave, How long do the club intend to fork out this money, it surely must be comming up to the cost of a compensation package by now, Surely it is time to add up the twelve months compo and the twelve months gardening pay and lets get on, It has gone on long enough, It is obvious that Billy Davis is managing prefectly well without Ned, Come on Derek you have proved your point now for the sake of the club sign the papers and let go, Or if not then i would suggest you change your legal advisors because both you and Ned are not going to back down. A good legal advisor would never have allowed this to go on for so long, unless there is a cause we do not know about, We do know that Ned has an open ended rolling contract that means it could go on for evermore or untill he retires, and by that time he will have been paid enough wages to cover the compensation due to the club, We do not need to go back on why he did this or we did that, that is all in the past but what we do need to know is why are we still paying out this money.😕
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i`m quite sure dereks legal advisors have a better grasp on what the clubs stance should be doing than you do. or perhaps you`d rather we paid him his remaining wages to see him at derby the following day. Leave him to his garden. if kelly is prepared to cut his nose off to spite his face then so be it. the longer it goes on the less chance he`ll have of getting a worthwhile job within football............His choice
 
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flipper said:
i`m quite sure dereks legal advisors have a better grasp on what the clubs stance should be doing than you do. or perhaps you`d rather we paid him his remaining wages to see him at derby the following day. Leave him to his garden. if kelly is prepared to cut his nose off to spite his face then so be it. the longer it goes on the less chance he`ll have of getting a worthwhile job within football............His choice
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I'm sure they do have a better grasp than i do, after all i do not know what they have advised Derek to do, If he decided to take there advice or not I am unable to quote on, However you are not grasping my point, all the while we are paying Ned, we are in fact paying him his compensation, and should he decide to retire to Aussie and Preston North End ask for compensation he will have the money WEpaid him nicely stacked to pay back to us. I do recall some time ago that Ned was selling his land in London and having a house built in Ausssie to retire to in the next 2/3 years Now if that is right then it could well be that he will retire to Aussie next year, if so do we carry on paying him until he goes and all the fuss about him going to Derby will drift away like a gust of wind. Now back to my original question can somebody tell me Are we still paying Ned or not and while I am at it as we are still employing Ned will he be entitled to holidays and sick pay ?😕
 
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nantothree said:
I'm sure they do have a better grasp than i do, after all i do not know what they have advised Derek to do, If he decided to take there advice or not I am unable to quote on, However you are not grasping my point, all the while we are paying Ned, we are in fact paying him his compensation, and should he decide to retire to Aussie and Preston North End ask for compensation he will have the money WEpaid him nicely stacked to pay back to us. I do recall some time ago that Ned was selling his land in London and having a house built in Ausssie to retire to in the next 2/3 years Now if that is right then it could well be that he will retire to Aussie next year, if so do we carry on paying him until he goes and all the fuss about him going to Derby will drift away like a gust of wind. Now back to my original question can somebody tell me Are we still paying Ned or not and while I am at it as we are still employing Ned will he be entitled to holidays and sick pay ?😕
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You keep missing the point. It costs us the same amount to pay his wages during gardening leave as it would to compensate him. However, if we compensate him, he can join Derby the next day. This way he cannot join Derby until the end of his PNE contract.
 
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And I'm pretty sure he'd have been given his notice of 12 months, as per the roll over period of his contract, when the gardening leave began. Therefore this won't go on indefinately, it'll go on untill next summer.

It's easier for the club to pay this joker in bits rather than in one lump sum, or better still take compensation off Derby & the dwarf. Let him rot in his garden says I.
 
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rem said:
You keep missing the point. It costs us the same amount to pay his wages during gardening leave as it would to compensate him. However, if we compensate him, he can join Derby the next day. This way he cannot join Derby until the end of his PNE contract.
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its alright rem its not your fault that he cant quite grasp it
 
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brianherron said:
I think nantothree is a she - the clue is in the user name🙄
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At least someone has got some sense, Thank you Brian


spudpie, you asked,
Are you asking whether PNE are still paying David Kelly?
yes i am

Or, are you assuming it is a fact that PNE are paying David Kelly?

Now why would I be assuming they are when i have asked the question

Or, are you just using this as an opportunity to have a dig at FOPNE

for what reason would i be having a dig at FOPNE. I do feel that we seem to be paying a lot of money out in unearned income and unnecessary rents and should we sell one of our players would the money received for the player go towards paying these expenses, especially when one of the expenses is being paid because of a childish notion that he can't go to Derby, I don't give a dam where he goes, we don't need him now so why keep paying him, as I have said before we are paying him his compo by wages as unearned income I also do not see how he could have been given a twelve months notice so if someone can please tell me how this was done I await for your reply because if PNE did this then they have already broken the contract by serving notice😕
 
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nantothree said:
I do feel that we seem to be paying a lot of money out in unearned income and unnecessary rents and should we sell one of our players would the money received for the player go towards paying these expenses, especially when one of the expenses is being paid because of a childish notion that he can't go to Derby, I don't give a dam where he goes, we don't need him now so why keep paying him, as I have said before we are paying him his compo by wages as unearned income I also do not see how he could have been given a twelve months notice so if someone can please tell me how this was done I await for your reply because if PNE did this then they have already broken the contract by serving notice😕
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You may be a nan but you're obviously not an accountant or a lawyer
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nantothree said:
At least someone has got some sense, Thank you Brian


spudpie, you asked,
Are you asking whether PNE are still paying David Kelly?
yes i am

Or, are you assuming it is a fact that PNE are paying David Kelly?

Now why would I be assuming they are when i have asked the question

Or, are you just using this as an opportunity to have a dig at FOPNE

for what reason would i be having a dig at FOPNE. I do feel that we seem to be paying a lot of money out in unearned income and unnecessary rents and should we sell one of our players would the money received for the player go towards paying these expenses, especially when one of the expenses is being paid because of a childish notion that he can't go to Derby, I don't give a dam where he goes, we don't need him now so why keep paying him, as I have said before we are paying him his compo by wages as unearned income I also do not see how he could have been given a twelve months notice so if someone can please tell me how this was done I await for your reply because if PNE did this then they have already broken the contract by serving notice😕
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Have you even read the replies to your initial post? We have tried to explain in simple english!
 
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