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Dawson ... failed replacement efforts

Dawson ... failed replacement efforts

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Beersoulman

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Following Dawson’s demise and transfer 1967 we struggled to replace him . Charnley, Forrest , Irvine , Ingram were all recruited but despite transfer fees initial promise failed to produce the goods .. and eventually we were relegated to the third tier (where Ingram flourished ) . No adequate replacement for hugill ... third tier looking likely ??


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Beersoulman said:
Following Dawson’s demise and transfer 1967 we struggled to replace him . Charnley, Forrest , Irvine , Ingram were all recruited but despite transfer fees initial promise failed to produce the goods .. and eventually we were relegated to the third tier (where Ingram flourished ) . No adequate replacement for hugill ... third tier looking likely ??


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I'll be honest, I don't think Moult will flourish like Ingram did...
 
Beersoulman said:
Following Dawson’s demise and transfer 1967 we struggled to replace him . Charnley, Forrest , Irvine , Ingram were all recruited but despite transfer fees initial promise failed to produce the goods .. and eventually we were relegated to the third tier (where Ingram flourished ) . No adequate replacement for hugill ... third tier looking likely ??


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weve got maguire back in a few weeks whos miles better than hugill and scored 10 in third of a season...
 
PrestonUltras81 said:
weve got maguire back in a few weeks whos miles better than hugill and scored 10 in third of a season...
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Nothing against Maguire but do you think he’s miles better than Hugill? Really?

If you watched Maguire against better centre halves last season he struggled to have an impact. Hugill causes most centre halves problems.
 
anotherstaffor_ said:
Need a John bird and A Spavin as well !
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George Ross in his prime would have given us solidity on the right on Saturday. Ken Knighton would have taken no prisoners. The sheer look of John Ritchie and Brian Godfrey would scare the life out of most of today's footballers. Just occurred to me that in general style Pearson is a bit reminiscent of Nobby Lawton.
 
Mer5eywhite said:
Nothing against Maguire but do you think he’s miles better than Hugill? Really?

If you watched Maguire against better centre halves last season he struggled to have an impact. Hugill causes most centre halves problems.
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Maguire is clearly a lot better than Hugill. Look at Burton and Millwall away last season for games where Hugill was utter shite.

I did rate Hugill and thought some gave him unfair stick, but technically he is not as good as maguire
 
I celebrate the long memory of Beersoulman and also bow to his wisdom.
As well as the "expensive" signings to replace the Black Prince, I also recall our attempts to make our own Norman Lloyd into a goalscoring hero and our anticipation that Alan Tarbuck, cheaply from Chester would be our next saviour. Sadly not, so maybe parallels with our, thus far, miserable attempts to replace the great Jordan Hughill…
At the time of Dawson's demise, he was getting ammunition from two wingers- Lee and Hannigan and the now ageing Lawton and Spav- all legends in their own right, all slower than Barky, less tenacious than Pearson, less energetic than Browne and less gifted than Robinson, so maybe relegation is not a certainty and maybe the stage is set for our next goalscoring hero!
 
When was Bobby Ham around. Seem to remember him as a striker. Although before my time, I believe that it was failure to replace Finney when he retired which started our long descent in the divisions. We’re all experts in hindsight!
 
pet shop boy said:
When was Bobby Ham around. Seem to remember him as a striker. Although before my time, I believe that it was failure to replace Finney when he retired which started our long descent in the divisions. We’re all experts in hindsight!
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Bobby Ham was signed by Alan Ball Snr early in the 70-71 season as foil for Gerry Ingram when it became obvious that Willie Irvine had simply been clogged into redundancy by the filthy defenders who were around in those days. The two of them together got 30-odd goals as I recall to help get us promoted back to the old Div 2 at the first attempt though neither could hack it once we got back there.

Sir Tom Finney was and remains the greatest footballer ever in the whole history of the words and as such was irreplaceable.
 
pet shop boy said:
When was Bobby Ham around. Seem to remember him as a striker. Although before my time, I believe that it was failure to replace Finney when he retired which started our long descent in the divisions. We’re all experts in hindsight!
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Bobby Ham played in the 3rd Division promotion side of 1970-71. I think he was signed to replace Archie Gemmill, who had been sold to Brian Clough's Forest. He formed a good little man/big man partnership with Gerry Ingram, Ham being the smaller of the two.

As for Sir Tom, to be fair, he was simply irreplaceable and you are right that following relegation the season after he retired, we have never since returned to the top division. That's what, 57 years and counting?
 
lesfry said:
I celebrate the long memory of Beersoulman and also bow to his wisdom.
As well as the "expensive" signings to replace the Black Prince, I also recall our attempts to make our own Norman Lloyd into a goalscoring hero and our anticipation that Alan Tarbuck, cheaply from Chester would be our next saviour. Sadly not, so maybe parallels with our, thus far, miserable attempts to replace the great Jordan Hughill…
At the time of Dawson's demise, he was getting ammunition from two wingers- Lee and Hannigan and the now ageing Lawton and Spav- all legends in their own right, all slower than Barky, less tenacious than Pearson, less energetic than Browne and less gifted than Robinson, so maybe relegation is not a certainty and maybe the stage is set for our next goalscoring hero!
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I like this optimism and remember we had no multi national premier league in those days ... so celebrate championship standard football . The only way is up !!


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