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Declan rudd

Declan rudd

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The abuse he's getting on social media is really harsh. Even piers Morgan is berating him. He made 1 mistake but he wasn't responsible for the other 2 gaols. He wasn't responsible for the 8 injuries we carry. He wasn't responsible for the owner not backing the manager. He's made 1 mistake. He's our goalkeeper and we need to move on and back him until the manager says otherwise. Abusing him dies nothing for anyone.
 
The lads made more than one mistake, how do you not expect a howler like that to be all over social media.
 
Mossy21;n3407535 said:
The lads made more than one mistake, how do you not expect a howler like that to be all over social media.

It's the abuse he's getting though. Maxwell made a shocker at Ipswich but nobody really made anthing of it. That day he made a mistake we move on. Today jesus the abuse from his own is staggering
 
Mickypne;n3407528 said:
The abuse he's getting on social media is really harsh. Even piers Morgan is berating him. He made 1 mistake but he wasn't responsible for the other 2 gaols. He wasn't responsible for the 8 injuries we carry. He wasn't responsible for the owner not backing the manager. He's made 1 mistake. He's our goalkeeper and we need to move on and back him until the manager says otherwise. Abusing him dies nothing for anyone.

Youd better get used to it, Micky, because this howler is going to go absolutely viral worldwide. Oh and howler it was, not just a mistake.
 
Mickypne;n3407528 said:
The abuse he's getting on social media is really harsh. Even piers Morgan is berating him. He made 1 mistake but he wasn't responsible for the other 2 gaols. He wasn't responsible for the 8 injuries we carry. He wasn't responsible for the owner not backing the manager. He's made 1 mistake. He's our goalkeeper and we need to move on and back him until the manager says otherwise. Abusing him dies nothing for anyone.

100%.

So much crap being spouted. All this 'Rudd and Maxwell will get us relegated' nonsense. Crowe might as well play etc etc, just utter bollocks. These two keepers saw us into 7th places last season. They are not bad keepers. Rudd today made the worst error I have ever seen a keeper in PNE colours make, but I back him amd would play him next week. No question. Drop him now and destroy the lad forever.
 
The lad made two cracking saves last week against the plastics,lets just forget that and go on the agenda that your only as good as your last game FFS, talk about fickle fans.
One day your a hero, next day your a clown,there's nothing in between now your a PNE player
 
He sadly has to live with what happened, no Goalkeeper likes to fluff an easy ball, but he did and he's also fluffed others and made bad choices, but when a midfielder or striker fluff chances it isn't as catastrophic and doesn't usually result in a goal against. Being a goalie is a tough job, but at this stage of the season I don't think we should be looking to ditch him or Maxi, because the new guy would have to learn all about our ways, and that could cost us more. So it was a mistake, we're still going to come back, nobody died, we've had mistakes before. We move on to Forest and then Millwall and we go to both with solid expectations, and support for all our lads.
 
raefil;n3407538 said:
Youd better get used to it, Micky, because this howler is going to go absolutely viral worldwide. Oh and howler it was, not just a mistake.

Absolutely pal it's a massive howler but it's not the reason wye got a spanking.
I'm sure it will be on question of sport in the what happened next at some point. I can think of great gk who made howlers to.
Did enklemen make 1 similar in that same goal and the fans ran on to chin him? At least ours aint that bad
 
Mickypne;n3407543 said:
Absolutely pal it's a massive howler but it's not the reason wye got a spanking.
I'm sure it will be on question of sport in the what happened next at some point. I can think of great gk who made howlers to.
Did enklemen make 1 similar in that same goal and the fans ran on to chin him? At least ours aint that bad

It kind of is why we were spanked, though. As I said on the matchday thread, we were mediocre but in the game until that. It was a game-changing moment and as AN said, the first goal against teams like Birmingham is usually very important.

Also, seen a few people say it was just ‘one’ mistake and every Gk does it but it’s not just one. He was poor for both goals at Derby, a shocker vs Bolton, cost us a goal at Leeds and now this today, something you wouldn’t even see on Moor Park probably.

I used to be a fan of this but his head seems to have gone. He’s not good enough at this level, and Maxwell doesn’t have the temperament to be a no.1 at this level long-term either. We must invest in a GK in January and I think will, probably on loan.

It’s important to separate abuse and criticism. Abuse isn’t acceptable but at the same time it’s perfectly justified to say he’s been awful both today and during the season as a whole.
 
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Anyone remember the name Massimo Taibi? Those that do likely aren't remembering any of his clean sheets...

Rudd is gonna have to get used to being a punchline for a while.
 
The argument that all goalkeepers make occasional howlers becomes weak when you hear it as many times as we have this season.
 
kbd_pne;n3407545 said:
It kind of is why we were spanked, though. As I said on the matchday thread, we were mediocre but in the game until that. It was a game-changing moment and as AN said, the first goal against teams like Birmingham is usually very important.

Also, seen a few people say it was just ‘one’ mistake and every Gk does it but it’s not just one. He was poor for both goals at Derby, a shocker vs Bolton, cost us a goal at Leeds and now this today, something you wouldn’t even see on Moor Park probably.

I used to be a fan of this but his head seems to have gone. He’s not good enough at this level, and Maxwell doesn’t have the temperament to be a no.1 at this level long-term either. We must invest in a GK in January and I think will, probably on loan.

It’s important to separate abuse and criticism. Abuse isn’t acceptable but at the same time it’s perfectly justified to say he’s been awful both today and during the season as a whole.

A very reasonable a fair post as oppose the the crap.being spouted about on social media like Mooney says about us being relegated. I'm more than happy to see us Improve any position and if rudd and maxwell are not good enough then so be it but abusing a player that wears your shirt is quite simply unreal. As you say though, abuse or criticism, fine line to some.
 
To be fair, it's worse than any other I've seen. But I still rate him. He's showed enough to prove he's a decent keeper. Hope he doesn't lose all confidence
 
I think he should’ve saved the third goal as well. Should be bread and butter, it’s very close to him.

But yes, the abuse is over the top and no need for it to get personal.
 
kbd_pne;n3407545 said:
It kind of is why we were spanked, though. As I said on the matchday thread, we were mediocre but in the game until that. It was a game-changing moment and as AN said, the first goal against teams like Birmingham is usually very important.

Also, seen a few people say it was just ‘one’ mistake and every Gk does it but it’s not just one. He was poor for both goals at Derby, a shocker vs Bolton, cost us a goal at Leeds and now this today, something you wouldn’t even see on Moor Park probably.

I used to be a fan of this but his head seems to have gone. He’s not good enough at this level, and Maxwell doesn’t have the temperament to be a no.1 at this level long-term either. We must invest in a GK in January and I think will, probably on loan.

It’s important to separate abuse and criticism. Abuse isn’t acceptable but at the same time it’s perfectly justified to say he’s been awful both today and during the season as a whole.

Brilliant post and I agree with every word. Couldn't sum it up better myself.
 
kbd_pne;n3407545 said:
It kind of is why we were spanked, though. As I said on the matchday thread, we were mediocre but in the game until that. It was a game-changing moment and as AN said, the first goal against teams like Birmingham is usually very important.

Also, seen a few people say it was just ‘one’ mistake and every Gk does it but it’s not just one. He was poor for both goals at Derby, a shocker vs Bolton, cost us a goal at Leeds and now this today, something you wouldn’t even see on Moor Park probably.

I used to be a fan of this but his head seems to have gone. He’s not good enough at this level, and Maxwell doesn’t have the temperament to be a no.1 at this level long-term either. We must invest in a GK in January and I think will, probably on loan.

It’s important to separate abuse and criticism. Abuse isn’t acceptable but at the same time it’s perfectly justified to say he’s been awful both today and during the season as a whole.

Great post.

Defo agree about it being a major contributing factor towards our capitulation.

We never looked in any danger at all in the first half.

The howler completely unnerved the whole team; as something like that usually does in football.

It also gave them a massive boost. They knew it would affect us and they smelled blood.
 
he’s one of the reasons we are as low down the league as we are. horrific season, compunded by neill not dropping him when he should have. We need a new keeper immediately. Gally in nets is a better option.
 
Abuse is not acceptable as lets be honest he didn’t want nor mean to make the error.

it is a fact though that the error lead to the spanking we recieved today. Yes we were utterly useless throughout the game but bar the first 15/20mins Birmingham failed to threaten first half. Granted they were on top an probably should have scored in the opening exchanges but the fact is they didn’t and we frustrated them. The howler then lifted Brum right at the start of the second half and it is probably one of the worst clangers ive seen. From then on the second goal was inevitable, but may i add the defending for Magohma goal is nothing short of sh&£e. The lad was able to chest the ball twice and then take a touch before shooting, all the time bing in our box!!
as Kingpne said, Rudd was also poor for the 3rd goal, has to save that for me, wasn’t even in the corner.

for people saying this is one mistake for rudd, that is untrue. He has cost us so many points and potential points this season. Today, bolton, derby, just to name 3 games he has majorly impacted in a negatuve way for us. Rudd’s shot stopping isn’t as good as people think, the 3rd goal today shouldn’t get past him, the same happened at Norwich away too. He aslo made a double save today but that was his own doing by palming a simple shot straight back into danger.

i do believe AN should have reinstated Maxwell straight after suspension (even though we went on to beat rovers and draw with boro) just to show him some faith and confidence that he’d be number 1.
 
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