Thracia
Club Owner, or wingback, depending on your view
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Not a denial of goal-scoring opportunity?
Not a sending-off offence.
Diving
Last night was blatant cheating no if or buts, cheating. It’s high time that the footballing authorities clamped down on it. The most simple and effective answer would be retrospective points deductions and bans for individual players involved. diving would vanish in two weeks.
He's not the incredible hulk. Not sure if people are expecting him or nut defender's out of the way or what
Some things are bigger than your club winning games. Diving is cheating - it is a blight on the game and I don't want to see it from a PNE player or anyone else. I think it can be stopped if the EFL wants to - you just have to make the punishment severe enough to change attitudes.
My proposal for stopping diving is
First offence - 8 game ban
Second offence - 15 game ban
Third offence - lifetime ban
In addition, clubs who have 3 diving offences in one season (from same or different players) are subject to a 10 point deduction.
All offences would have to be unanimously confirmed via an expert panel, thus ruling out those incidents that are in the "grey area" of falling over a bit easily after contact is made.
My proposal for stopping diving is
First offence - 8 game ban
Second offence - 15 game ban
Third offence - lifetime ban
In addition, clubs who have 3 diving offences in one season (from same or different players) are subject to a 10 point deduction.
All offences would have to be unanimously confirmed via an expert panel, thus ruling out those incidents that are in the "grey area" of falling over a bit easily after contact is made.
We could bring Tom Daley in as diving coach ?
If bans are going to be handed out you will have to be 100% sure the player dived.
Two players running side by side at full tilt only takes a slight accidental brush together or a forward just loses his footing just at the wrong moment could look like a dive.
Two players running side by side at full tilt only takes a slight accidental brush together or a forward just loses his footing just at the wrong moment could look like a dive.
Too lenient. We need to get medieval on them.
A ten game ban would have players thinking twice about cheating though......
It’s when they go up in the air and then down like a dying swan and roll for about 50 yards that wants stamping out
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Soft, exaggerated, going down vs diving. Is there a difference? Certainly the latter you go back and punish with more certainty, but both are the same offence, conning the ref. Can you punish one but not the other?
If not, then trying to use video evidence to decide exactly how much contact was made, and whether or not they should have gone down is way too subjective for draconian punishments.
If not, then trying to use video evidence to decide exactly how much contact was made, and whether or not they should have gone down is way too subjective for draconian punishments.
Or when the ball hits them on the knee and they roll around holding their face.
Lifetime ban. what are you smoking lad?
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So what would you suggest we do with someone who persistently brings the game into disrepute?
After it's been proven that they consistently dive the player should be banned from profiting from season bonus clauses and sell on clause where the players gets a % of the transfer fee. It wouldn't make sense for them to dive anymore if they are thinking about their future.... Go on ...tell me what a class idea that is
If it’s not enough ‘contact’ to knock a professional athlete who trains for strength and balance over then it isn’t a foul. All this falling over at the slightest hint of being touched, rolling round holding your face and cocking your leg out to ‘contact’ an opposing player is bollocks. Idiots like Shearer who drone on match of the day saying there was contact so he is entitled to go down need lining up and shooting.
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Correct. Apparently he anticipated contact so was entitled to go down. So if Pearson has the ball in midfield and anticipates he's about to be tackled he can go down? Absolute madness.
His' anticipation' on Monday was incorrect. As you say it's madness if that can be used as a defence.
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On Monday had won that mini battle and forced the player wide then did a good job of getting out of the way, the player was going nowhere and knew it so down he went.
100% pure, blatant, stone-wall cheating.
Absolutely it was. Obviously we have to move on and try and maintain our good record against QPR. Will be disappointed if Edwards doesn't get banned as cheats shouldn't prosper. Need a win or two to get the feelgood factor back as that left a nasty taste.
Can defenders start anticipating challenges from forwards and start going down every time a goal kick or free kick is sent high towards the box? From corners as well?