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I can't be doing with pessimistic people...

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Whilst I don’t like losing, I would rather a lost cup game than league. We are never going to win the cup but we can, though doubtful, get in the play offs. I see these games as an opportunity to bed in the new players, and keep the fringe players in active participation. If the players don’t perform then that is not the manager’s fault that players don’t take the opportunity to impress more. It’s unfortunate John Welsh got carded so early it probably diluted his game which would have had a knock on effect all over the pitch. It’s not the end of the world but we definitely need to sort something out in our opportunities to score and in our midfield because lately, we have looked woeful. I’m sure thes3 issues are being addressed and we will just have to be patient again.
 
Whilst I don’t like losing, I would rather a lost cup game than league. We are never going to win the cup but we can, though doubtful, get in the play offs. I see these games as an opportunity to bed in the new players, and keep the fringe players in active participation. If the players don’t perform then that is not the manager’s fault that players don’t take the opportunity to impress more. It’s unfortunate John Welsh got carded so early it probably diluted his game which would have had a knock on effect all over the pitch. It’s not the end of the world but we definitely need to sort something out in our opportunities to score and in our midfield because lately, we have looked woeful. I’m sure thes3 issues are being addressed and we will just have to be patient again.

I hate this "we are never going to win the cup" approach, we should be going all out to go as far as we can and see where it takes us, using it as a training exercise for fringe players is simply not on.
As someone who has seen us play in an FA cup final, I can tell you there is nothing quite like it.
 
Mate from work has just text me saying a rumour doing the rounds on the way home is there has been a fall out.
Few things thrown and a few players spitting their dummies out after a bollocking.
No idea if it's true or not, just checking if anyone has heard the same.

Wouldn't surprise me and it's about fucking time that some of the players were told it how it is. A lot of them have got a soft centre - they let Grayson down towards the end of last season, effectively just giving up.

Neil is in the process of discovering who has bravery, determination, passion, guts, desire, a will to win and who doesn't. Some players clearly think they only need to put in a performance against the top teams, or when they feel like it. As Neil said after last weeks game, we will never get anywhere like that. There seems to be some dissent in the dressing room from some players and things could get worse before they get better.
 
Massive over reaction as per usual ...
we were very unlucky to lose today poor performance by both teams set for a draw
until Clark mistake we should still be in the draw for 5th round... but we are still having a good season get a grip!! Agree that we are not playing well at moment but things are not as bad as many are saying
Never been a fan of resting players in the cup but our main problem is ...We need to start scoring goals ASAP next 4-5 games will define our season
still too many draws in the league But would have taken one today and we should have had it!

We should have had a win last week but for Maxwell's mistake. Another mistake today and perhaps that's what is pissing Neil off - too many careless mistakes due to lack of concentration.
 
At Norwich he balled the players out from the touch line for mis placed passes etc and lost the dressing room.

Strikes me billy davies attitude but not eqipped with the know how or tactics.

Yeah because Norwich have done so much better since they sacked him. Here we go again.
 
Since the draw was made for this round I have been saying to my lad that I would take fringe players and reserves today and give them a run out, so I'm definitely not going to start having a moan about AN for making changes. Fair enough, we didn't create much which is disappointing, but neither did Sheff United. It was two poor teams on the day out there today. I'm more bothered about getting the 3 pts next week. If we are as bad next week as today against a poor Hull team (I know they won today) then I might be hitting the panic button myself, but I'm certainly not over a cup game that was never our top priority. If we do get the 3 pts on Tuesday, I think today will be quickly forgotten.
 
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Wouldn't surprise me and it's about fucking time that some of the players were told it how it is. A lot of them have got a soft centre - they let Grayson down towards the end of last season, effectively just giving up.

Neil is in the process of discovering who has bravery, determination, passion, guts, desire, a will to win and who doesn't. Some players clearly think they only need to put in a performance against the top teams, or when they feel like it. As Neil said after last weeks game, we will never get anywhere like that. There seems to be some dissent in the dressing room from some players and things could get worse before they get better.

Interesting second paragraph, we definitely have some players who perform well game in game out but do we have enough to make a realistic push for promotion?
With those who are not performing consistently is it their ability or application that is not up to standard?
 
Just out of interest. What is this based on?

Just my gut feeling after watching our body language and performances. Lots of arm waving from players, blaming each other, not taking responsibility, not showing for the ball. Something's not right.
 
I hate this "we are never going to win the cup" approach, we should be going all out to go as far as we can and see where it takes us, using it as a training exercise for fringe players is simply not on.
As someone who has seen us play in an FA cup final, I can tell you there is nothing quite like it.

Agreed we have to know our place in the league and never win the cup, so why bother? The cup should therefore give us something to shout about our own cup final and victory against a top flight team. When was the last time that happened? Wigan have today beaten West Ham the 5th Premier league team in recent years. Well done Latics!
 
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