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Feb 1st - How do we compare....?

Feb 1st - How do we compare....?

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After the transfer window closes we begin Feb like this :-
P 28; W 9; D 10; L 9; GD -2; Pts 37...... in 13th place - how does this compare to recent seasons and what can we expect ?

Feb 1st 2021 it was 27; 11;3;13; -3; points 36 we were 11th
Feb 1st 2020 was 30; 13;8; 9; 8; pts 47 = 7th
Feb 1st 2019 30; 9; 10; 11; 0; 37 pts = 16th place
Feb 1st 2018 29; 11; 12; 6; 7; 45 pts = 9th place.

so basically this is the 2nd worse place we've been in on Feb 1st.... PROOF I think this squad is the worst / 2nd worst.

in 2021 we finished 13th on 61 points
2020 we ended 9th on 66 points
2019 it was 14th on 61 points and
2018 we ended 7th on 73 points.

do you think we will get to 61 points this season or anyone think we might beat 73 points ???
 
The big mistake was certainly hiring Frankie along with some shoddy recruitment in the last 12 months. Leaving us in a position of a bloated squad with a glut of players unsuitable for championship football.

We didn't want to invest money in a proper manager last season. And this season we won't invest in the transfer market to support the new manager - who clearly needs backing if he's to achieve anything.

We always seem to be two steps behind where we should be in regards investment, but that's been the issue for decades. Possibly because the club has always seemed far too content with mid-table finishes.

It's frustrating when the race for a top six finish finish is pretty wide open this season. And I actually think we are probably only two players away from being able to have a stab at it.

As things stand I think the season will end up petering out in mid-late march. Leaving the usual stack of dead rubbers in April. I'd wager we will finish 11th to 14th with 60+ points

Let's hope in the summer we actually recruit properly. No more injury gambles. No more extended contracts for L1 fodder.

At least the football on show is watchable again under Lowe and that is very encouraging for the future.
 
No idea what the points will be sports, but I’m content we won’t be relegated (wasn’t so sure under Frankie) so job done.
Let Lowe watch the squad until Middlesbrough and decide who he wants for his system going forward.
Meantime, keep demanding front foot football, every player gives 100% to keep the shirt, every fan continues to believe where, recently, we’ve been more likely to despair.
I‘d given up on the dream of ever seeing my club in the Prem, but now have (realistic🤞) hope going forward.
Points this season? Anything that keeps us up.
Going forward under Lowe, and, while the passing of Mr Hemings was sad, an apparent new structure & manner of communicating and doing business under new stewardship, I’m hopeful for the future. For points sufficient to take us directly up, or, at worst, give us a play-off berth.
 
Unfair to say it is the 2nd worst squad due to the manager scenario.
To make another comparison, what where our points to games ratio from December to Feb in the 4 seasons? Just to compare Lowe with Neil and Grayson (I appreciate Frankies never had that specific period).
 
TomPNEFC said:
I think this squad is actually one of the better ones we’ve had in the Championship we just had a postman in charge for 20 games. Doesn’t really matter the rest of this season let’s just try and finish as high as possible and have a proper clear out for what Lowe wants in summer.
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Surely you mean since we've returned to the Championship? Even then, I think we were better in Neil's 1st season and by some distance. From that season the likes of Clarke, Davies, Fisher, Huntington, Cunningham the player then, Pearson, Gallagher, Robinson, Maguire pre injury, possibly Hugill would all be in our near our 1st 11 now.

We wouldn't need a proper clear out in the Summer if this was one of our better squads. We've some very good players no doubt, but Iversen, Sepp and Archer are very likely not to be here, of which we have average at best replacements in the squad.

We don't have a creative play maker capable covering for DJ as a '10', we lack top quality for both wing backs, we lack top quality at centre half when Sepp goes, we lack top quality in goals when Iversen goes, we only have Riis and an ageing Evans, who is incapable of playing 90 minutes game after game, as 2 reliable strikers at this level when Archer goes. We're only strong in centre midfield.
 
norky84 said:
Surely you mean since we've returned to the Championship? Even then, I think we were better in Neil's 1st season and by some distance. From that season the likes of Clarke, Davies, Fisher, Huntington, Cunningham the player then, Pearson, Gallagher, Robinson, Maguire pre injury, possibly Hugill would all be in our near our 1st 11 now.

We wouldn't need a proper clear out in the Summer if this was one of our better squads. We've some very good players no doubt, but Iversen, Sepp and Archer are very likely not to be here, of which we have average at best replacements in the squad.

We don't have a creative play maker capable covering for DJ as a '10', we lack top quality for both wing backs, we lack top quality at centre half when Sepp goes, we lack top quality in goals when Iversen goes, we only have Riis and an ageing Evans, who is incapable of playing 90 minutes game after game, as 2 reliable strikers at this level when Archer goes. We're only strong in centre midfield.
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I am referring to since 15/16 but we do have Iversen, Sepp and Archer so no point going on about when they leave because this current season we have them. Depth is an obvious issue but I think starting 11 wise, Iversen, Sepp, Bauer, our midfield and Riis and Archer would get into most of the teams we’ve had since promotion.
 
I'd love to know how much of an influence CH has had in the apparent change in philosophy at the club.

Left to his own devices under Trevor, I doubt the riddler would've replaced Frankie while we were "safely" outside of the relegation zone.
 
TomPNEFC said:
I am referring to since 15/16 but we do have Iversen, Sepp and Archer so no point going on about when they leave because this current season we have them. Depth is an obvious issue but I think starting 11 wise, Iversen, Sepp, Bauer, our midfield and Riis and Archer would get into most of the teams we’ve had since promotion.
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For me:

Iversen

Fisher
Sepp
Clarke/Huntington
Davies
Cunningham under Neil

Pearson
Gallagher
DJ modern day

Riis/Archer
Robinson
 
sports rehab said:
After the transfer window closes we begin Feb like this :-
P 28; W 9; D 10; L 9; GD -2; Pts 37...... in 13th place - how does this compare to recent seasons and what can we expect ?

Feb 1st 2021 it was 27; 11;3;13; -3; points 36 we were 11th
Feb 1st 2020 was 30; 13;8; 9; 8; pts 47 = 7th
Feb 1st 2019 30; 9; 10; 11; 0; 37 pts = 16th place
Feb 1st 2018 29; 11; 12; 6; 7; 45 pts = 9th place.

so basically this is the 2nd worse place we've been in on Feb 1st.... PROOF I think this squad is the worst / 2nd worst.

in 2021 we finished 13th on 61 points
2020 we ended 9th on 66 points
2019 it was 14th on 61 points and
2018 we ended 7th on 73 points.

do you think we will get to 61 points this season or anyone think we might beat 73 points ???
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Tough question given the recent changes. If I had to put my life on a specific total, I'd say 64 points... but we live in hope of a purple patch that gives a surprise run of 4 or 5 wins. (unless my life really DOES depend on it, in which case I hope we end on 64 points.)

It's all about staying just about in sight of the top six, so that interest is maintained - but also crucial that Lowe learns about the Championship and the squad, and gets us ready for next season.
 
I’m all for sensible recruitment but a win tonight would keep any faint hopes of the play offs alive for some fans, ultimately we could fall short because of the lack of quality in a couple of positions. Its all about next season so fans are expected to turn up and pay good money for a lost cause till then. Thats how I see it.

Sensible is great but now we have such a big job in the summer and will be expecting so many to hit the ground running when they could have been playing games now and learning the system. Its a little disappointing and the biggest worry for me is the budget we will have in place. I guess we will all find out in a few months if we are going to be competitive with the teams in the top half of the table or trying to get promoted with a bottom 3 club budget.
 
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