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A couple of weeks ago put a thread on saying we should get rid of Gally at the end of the season, have to hold me hand up to say I was wrong, his experience is invaluable and also when he plays we actually do tend to win more games than we lose, so another contract please for our Number 12

Every credit for admitting you were wrong?
 
A couple of weeks ago put a thread on saying we should get rid of Gally at the end of the season, have to hold me hand up to say I was wrong, his experience is invaluable and also when he plays we actually do tend to win more games than we lose, so another contract please for our Number 12

How refreshing, every credit. Haven't heard any of the 'we can't do better than Grayson' lot admitting they were wrong.
 
Gally isn't the sort of player who makes more of a difference against tired legs or as an impact sub. If we keep him for a reasonable wage, then he should be dictating the tempo of a game for 60 minutes or so, and then let someone with fresh legs take over.

I agree.

On the occasions when we're winning but coming under pressure and our play becomes a bit frantic he'd be IMHO a very useful impact sub; his impact being to inject some composure and calmness into our play, to keep possession as well as force teams back by playing those accurate penetrating long forward passes he's so good at.

But generally I'd rather see him start plenty of games and influence them as he's capable of doing for at least 60 to 70 minutes.
 
He can still play a pass no one else in our squad can see or execute. Still has set piece and crossing that is among the best in the division, although some of his free kicks have been below par this season. Gallagher, Clarke and Hunts experience imho is vital in what is a young squad. Worth another year at least. Just lay off the dragging the kids trampoline out of a pond in a farmers field while you are injured eh Paul......
 
How refreshing, every credit. Haven't heard any of the 'we can't do better than Grayson' lot admitting they were wrong.

And I am still yet to see an apology and admittance for predicting relegation the last two seasons. 'We are relegation fodder' or something along them lines after you wet yourself after losing to Blackburn.
 
Honestly? Yes I would. He’s showed great loyalty to us and I think some reciprocation is in order.

There is no loyalty in football anymore. Everything is a transaction and this situation will be resolved on that basis. Wish it was different, but it isn’t.
 
There are a few issues here to be considered. Gally obviously has another year in him at least at Championship level but first of all what division will we be in. If we were to get promoted, I don’t think there’s any point giving him a contract. If we are still in the Championship, then I’d offer him a 12 month contract (however, I suspect he’ll be looking for a minimum of 2 years for security reasons) as we will be striving hard for promotion next season. I suspect we’ll make some sort of offer, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go elsewhere on a 2 or 3 year deal.
 
There are a few issues here to be considered. Gally obviously has another year in him at least at Championship level but first of all what division will we be in. If we were to get promoted, I don’t think there’s any point giving him a contract. If we are still in the Championship, then I’d offer him a 12 month contract (however, I suspect he’ll be looking for a minimum of 2 years for security reasons) as we will be striving hard for promotion next season. I suspect we’ll make some sort of offer, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go elsewhere on a 2 or 3 year deal.

if we were going back to div1 then ok to PG,TC and Welsh for contract extensions.But we wish to move forward, so forget all this crap sentimentality and get rid of the dead wood
 
if we were going back to div1 then ok to PG,TC and Welsh for contract extensions.But we wish to move forward, so forget all this crap sentimentality and get rid of the dead wood

It’s all good saying that and trying to act all tough, but Gally even at his age is one of our most effective players, and certainly is not dead wood.

I don’t particularly rate TC, but would have no problem keeping him around the place as he’s obviously a top guy and can do a job every now and then. On the other hand, I wouldn’t be too distraught if he were to leave.
 
if we were going back to div1 then ok to PG,TC and Welsh for contract extensions.

I suspect that even at that level Welsh might now struggle - he should have been released to play there two seasons ago. Gallagher and Clarke might both be worth another season after this with us simply because of their experience but if either or both wanted to go elsewhere for the sake of extended security then we could manage. We already have two alternatives to Gallagher in any case - Johnson and Harrop. If Clarke left then we would need to look to bring in a younger player to replace him.
 
Neil still clearly rates Gally , which is why he picks him when fit and repeatedly points out our win record when he's in the team with Pearson and Browne . So I think we can assume he is not regarded as deadwood and will be offered a new contract .
Clarke I think is now seen as a solid squad player offering cover at centre half and right back .
Welsh , however , is certain to depart in the summer - with thanks and great memories from everyone here I'm sure .
 
I suspect that even at that level Welsh might now struggle - he should have been released to play there two seasons ago. Gallagher and Clarke might both be worth another season after this with us simply because of their experience but if either or both wanted to go elsewhere for the sake of extended security then we could manage. We already have two alternatives to Gallagher in any case - Johnson and Harrop. If Clarke left then we would need to look to bring in a younger player to replace him.

I wouldn't say DJ or Harrop are the same kind of player as Gally, Johnson looks to burst forward and play forward final balls into the danger area and Harrop plays much more advanced than Gally. We don't have another player in the squad who can dictate play from deep like Gally can. You can see him calm things down on the pitch and get us playing when we are losing control of a game slightly, in his 25 games this season he's played we've only lost two and in the 11 games in which hes partnered Browne and Pearson we haven't lost. I don't understand the desire of some on here to see Gally and Clarke leave, they've both played well this season, I can't remember either making a major mistake or having a bad game, if either are demanding mad wages we may have to let them go but I certainly have no desire to see either leave, it's a squad game and they have both been valuable members of our squad this season.
 
Once we get rid of the fringe players like Doyle,Pringle,Welsh,O'Connor and Vermajil etc, we'll be more than capable to afford Gally for another year

3 of those players have all had parts to play this year when injuries and suspensions come in, if we get rid of them we would need to replace them with other squad players. It's a squad game, we can't just cut ourselves to the bones.
 
I really bristle at us plebs on the internet using the term 'deadwood' when applied to someone who has served the club well - especially someone who served for so long.

If we must be rude to people who aren't being successful (very often through no fault of their own), then reserve the word for someone who's been brought in but never really made it at the club.

Anyway, no way is Gally deadwood by any definition. Might not be up to the prem if the miracle were to happen, but still a very good player at Championship level.
 
Yes a further 12 months for me, the same for Welsh unless we have another Pearson type of Mid-Fielder lined up---I think DJ could be a good player in this Division but needs to be played further forward, and conversely Browne is better alongside Pearson ---As for Harop, he will have to show he was worth that long contract next season
 
3 of those players have all had parts to play this year when injuries and suspensions come in, if we get rid of them we would need to replace them with other squad players. It's a squad game, we can't just cut ourselves to the bones.

The 3 you're referring to really haven't had much of a part to play.

Vermijl played approximately 50 minutes for us in the league and didn't even make the squad at Millwall with Browne playing right back.

Neil tried everything not to use O'Connor. Woods and Fisher have played LB instead, as did Davies for one game, and he has both Earl and Cunningham ahead of him in the pecking order. He is currently failing to make matchday squads at League One level with Fleetwood. Suspect a return to Ireland in the summer is likely for him.

Welsh has started about 3-4 times in the league for us in the past 18 months, and will almost certainly be replaced in the summer given our desire to sign a central midfielder in the past 2 transfer windows.

Getting rid of these types of players isn't "cutting ourselves to the bone" because they hardly contribute anyway, and we need to free up wages to help make room for new additions.

I would expect all the senior players currently out on loan to leave permanently in the summer, plus 2-3 of the ones still here hardly playing and not making the squad. That would get some money of the wage bill and give us squad space for 4-5 additions in the summer which would let Neil put more of his stamp on the squad.
 
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