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Went on tonight and all this talk about Alex Neil taking us to another level a few weeks ago, well that's a load of bull shit, worst game for years! No plan b never really changes formation. Seemed to me like he wants to play from the back but some of the balls maxwell was made to play out were suicide, barkhuizen needs to be more involved centrally imo like last season he is our best player next game up top with hugill 4 4 2 please Mr Neil
 
Sambora said:
Went on tonight and all this talk about Alex Neil taking us to another level a few weeks ago, well that's a load of bull shit, worst game for years! No plan b never really changes formation. Seemed to me like he wants to play from the back but some of the balls maxwell was made to play out were suicide, barkhuizen needs to be more involved centrally imo like last season he is our best player next game up top with hugill 4 4 2 please Mr Neil
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There have been far worse games than that over the years! I thought we played well in the 1st half with the pace of Mavididi and Barkuizen causing some problems but I must admit we rarely looked really threatening and some players ran out of steam in the 2nd half. I agree about Barkuizen. Neil did belatedly switch him and Mavididi late on but should have done so much earlier. Certainly no lack of effort tonight and good to see Clarke and and Rudd back in the squad but we desperately need more quality, especially in the final third. Hopefully that will be addressed in January but I'm not holding my breath.
 
No mate I don't but it was poor. First half was ok but second half really showed that Alex Neil just played it safe for me tom barkhuizen is awesome when given licence to run through the middle
 
northender0602 said:
do you go on every match? because I have seen worse than that under Alex Neil 😀
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To be fair it was shite tonight, reminded me of the Gary Peters show circa 1997. We started off okay and if we'd have got a goal in the first 20 minutes then we'd have probably won but a half decent team would have beaten us tonight. Bolton will be lucky to stay up this year.

Villa was a worse performance and you could argue Millwall was. But Millwall came and did a job on us back in September. If we played that same Millwall team now we'd easily lose.
 
Sambora said:
No mate I don't but it was poor. First half was ok but second half really showed that Alex Neil just played it safe for me tom barkhuizen is awesome when given licence to run through the middle
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Barkhuizen is certainly too far away from goal at the moment. He's easily one of the best finishers at the club, and shouldn't be on the touchline, a) because he can finish if played more central and b) he isn't a tricky/skilful winger so out wide he won't be beating players on his own.

I think the defensive crisis has distracted a discussion from the real problem which, as I said on the matchday thread, I think is scoring goals.

Other than a few games in September, we've been struggling to score all season. In 3 of our last 5 home games, we have drawn a blank. We lack composure and quality when moving the ball forward and the decision making when playing the final ball is often terrible.

We need to add quality in this area (and other areas) in January but we also need to get a bit more out of what we've currently got. As already discussed Barkhuizen is too wide. The left-sided role clearly isn't getting anything out of Robinson who played off a big man last season.

I don't see Neil changing his system anytime soon, but a few tweaks need to be made going forward or we'll continue to look very toothless in front of goal unfortunately.
 
sedgwick__7 said:
Barkhuizen is certainly too far away from goal at the moment. He's easily one of the best finishers at the club, and shouldn't be on the touchline, a) because he can finish if played more central and b) he isn't a tricky/skilful winger so out wide he won't be beating players on his own.

I think the defensive crisis has distracted a discussion from the real problem which, as I said on the matchday thread, I think is scoring goals.

Other than a few games in September, we've been struggling to score all season. In 3 of our last 5 home games, we have drawn a blank. We lack composure and quality when moving the ball forward and the decision making when playing the final ball is often terrible.
Very worrying I like Alex Neil
We need to add quality in this area (and other areas) in January but we also need to get a bit more out of what we've currently got. As already discussed Barkhuizen is too wide. The left-sided role clearly isn't getting anything out of Robinson who played off a big man last season.

I don't see Neil changing his system anytime soon, but a few tweaks need to be made going forward or we'll continue to look very toothless in front of goal unfortunately.
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very worrying I like Alex Neil but unless he changes his system to suit the players then I can only see us struggling with some tough games coming up
 
One of the criticisms from Norwich fans was that AN had no plan B. Seems to be continuing in that vein here. Surely you learn from previous experiences!
 
I woke up to the headline "Maxi credits defensive display". The only reason we kept a clean sheet yesterday was because Bolton didn't test our goalkeeper and when the ball fell to their players for shooting opportunities on two occasions they hit it over the bar. I totally agree about the managers lack of plan B and there is no change to formation in games whatsoever. We used to play 3:5:2, 4:5:1 & 4:4:2 as Mike Basset once said. Bolton we're a poor side and will be down at the bottom this season, in the first half we played ok but as we have witnessed before we can't score the chances. I respect that injuries have been bad for us but the manager should adapt the team to suite what resources he has available. I'm not keen how he outcast a number of players at the start of the campaign, it's come back to bite him that's for sure. Team spirit is the key and I bet that changing room is not the same as it was 12 months ago.
 
Sambora said:
Went on tonight and all this talk about Alex Neil taking us to another level a few weeks ago, well that's a load of bull shit, worst game for years! No plan b never really changes formation. Seemed to me like he wants to play from the back but some of the balls maxwell was made to play out were suicide, barkhuizen needs to be more involved centrally imo like last season he is our best player next game up top with hugill 4 4 2 please Mr Neil
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Do people bother fucking looking at the injury list. Not just our defence but our two main goalscorers. Jesus christ
 
Mickypne said:
Do people bother fucking looking at the injury list. Not just our defence but our two main goalscorers. Jesus christ
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+1 some people seem to be missing the point that at least 4/5 of that team are filling in.
They are not his first team and some are way off the pace. The Irish lads are miles away from this level, Brown apart.
Keeping faith and satisfied with a draw against a big strong Bolton side.
 
Absolutely WH44. And full credit to those standing in. We didnt concede, which is massive after recent events.

We are treading water, right now, untill we get the semblence of a normal squad again.
 
raefil said:
Absolutely WH44. And full credit to those standing in. We didnt concede, which is massive after recent events.

We are treading water, right now, untill we get the semblence of a normal squad again.
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There's no doubt the number of injuries has disrupted the team but the defence was fine last night, centre midfield has been largely unaffected by the injuries and when Hugill returns there will only be Maguire unavailable from the 'front four'. Yes, we'll be stronger as a squad when the likes of Cunningham and Davies are back but I would suggest that only significant additions in January will make a real difference.
 
I would suggest, as I have done previously, that this is a 6 month maybe 12 months audition tops for a lot of our players.

Some have adapted with ease whilst others simply cannot adapt to the change. Not saying that they are poor players, just that they are not adaptable.

Understand it for what it is. Be massive changes between now and Aug 5th 2018.

KTF.
 
Jack Daniels said:
I would suggest, as I have done previously, that this is a 6 month maybe 12 months audition tops for a lot of our players.

Some have adapted with ease whilst others simply cannot adapt to the change. Not saying that they are poor players, just that they are not adaptable.

Understand it for what it is. Be massive changes between now and Aug 5th 2018.

KTF.
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Let me try and understand what you are saying here Jack.

AN is looking at who fits his style of play best , those who are adaptable and can play his system stay , the rest we ship out and do a rebuild of the squad ?

EDIT: Actually , what your saying given thought , makes perfect sence , but do we have the finances to do that, would that also mean breaking the mould of "free " young talent to be nurtured ? A model I though could have , and was working to a degree.
 
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