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Police investigating video of officers clashing with football fans following Wigan Athletic vs Preston North End match

Police are investigating footage showing violent alterations between officers and football fans following this afternoon's Latics vs Preston fixture.
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There are always issues with those bridges at that stadium which sadly the GMP seem incapable of policing.
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It's lucky I took a diversion across the car park and went my normal route down the canal further down.

I've no idea why they insist on policing it this way when with all the games I've seen there, there hasn't been an ounce of trouble between PNE and Wigan fans.
 
northender2 said:
no idea what happened in this incident but without knowing what happened in the lead up to it, it doesn't look good from the police
having said that, we seem to have a few idiots following us whenever we get big away followings, about 3 or 4 rows in front of me, someone threw a bottle of beer at the beginning of the game which must have hit someone lower down the stand, these people need to think before they do stupid stuff like that
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after we scored our second some areshole PNE fan launched a full bottle of beer which hit one of our bus stewards on the head, absolute fuckin bellends.
 
North End fans came down the canal and crossed the bridge. All was placid until the inevitable meeting just before the crossing.

Police were stewarding it well in fairness, North End and Wigan were crossing at the same time and no issues bar the obvious victory chanting.

Further on it got a bit more tasty. Lads were squaring up but didn’t actually see any fists thrown. The usual, happens every local away game.

Waves of GMP then arrive in vans and round up North End fans pushing them towards one direction, all standard stuff up until this point.

From then on, I’ve never seen policing like it. Batons, abuse, fists. Men, women and children targeted. Rounded up, beaten and as the video proves abused.

Thank goodness someone has caught this on video. Random people picked off and battered. Not just that but at one point everyone rushed from behind and hit with batons.

The police in general do a great job in preventing trouble. I’m telling you right now, the policing from GMP today was barbaric.
 
Mer5eywhite said:
I was with a few Wigan mates heading back to the bridge which leads over the canal to the Brickmakers pub.

North End fans were nowhere near us and going in the opposite direction. The regular coppers kettled about 60 or 70 fans including families. They wouldn’t let us cross the bridge. We were there about ten minutes for no reason. The space allowed to us was made smaller and smaller. Kids were crying, people started stepping on each other and some fell out. Fans were asking the police to stop it and just let them continue over the footbridge.
Suddenly a TAG squad arrived as if in The Sweeney. Out of the back of a van some 30 yards away. I walked away from the cordon and was batoned across my legs by one of them and I was then set upon by 2 regular coppers. Wigan fans broke the cordon and dragged me away.

Once they’d had their fun they let us on our way. The police have a difficult job to do but these wankers just used ordinary men,,women and children for entertainment.
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Fookin ell. I know mer5ey and hes as far away from being a football thug as anyone could be.

I was toying with going, today, so glad i didnt, in fact it was this type of attitude that halted my years of going to away matches completely.

Hope alls well 🙁

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ah just realised this was a past incident. My point still stands though.
 
Not sure if anyone remembers but our fans were attacked by the police when we beat Birmingham on pens in 2001 for doing nothing more than chanting at the Birmingham coaches that were parked on Lowthorpe Road.

I was never sure whether Brum brought their own coppers to help out or not but I was in the process of applying to Lancs at the time. Withdrew my application the next day.

Unfortunately it is one of those careers that attracts a number of arseholes who let down the rest....a bit like football fans to an extent.
 
Didnt the then owner of wigan complain about the cost of the policing from GMP too?
 
I don't know what's gone on in that copper's head to strike that young lad on the head like that. That could have been (still could be?) a very serious injury. I support the police doing a difficult job but that was just pointless brutality and totally out of order.
 
Numerous issues arise from this, why did they have their batons out? Surely pava being a lower use of force would have been more appropriate if faced with a violent crowd, why was the lad not arrested if he had committed an act that required such positive intervention? The push in the lads face is common asssault and indefensible. PC Elliot would be disgusted at this and we are very lucky to have him. Hope an official complaint is made as this is abuse of authority full stop.
 
The problem is, officers have lost or don’t have the ability to just communicate with people appropriately. By all means, sort those out causing the problems, but don’t target the first human you lay hands on.

The use of force in the PNE footage is abuse of power. One instance of excessive force (officer pinning down and punching/slapping) and another instance of escalating/antagonising by shoving to the face.

The Barnsley footage is disgusting. If this was on an officer, the officer would be given pride of Britain award for bravery. As it’s the other way round, the lad ‘must’ have had to have done something wrong. I can’t see how this copper avoids jail time. He’s stood next to his mum and is then charged at and smacked round the head - he could have killed/brain damaged him.

The only instance this will be considered ‘reasonable’ is if he was posing a threat to life...and I’m sure he wasn’t.
 
He’ll get in trouble for that. The law says batons are only to be used on nerve clusters and big muscles like the thigh.

Only legal to use on skull, spine, groin etc, if there is threat to life, and there is nothing that lad can have done that could be seen as threatening to life - unless he had a bomb vest or was a master assassin
 
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