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And Lindergarrd. I can guarantee you now we won’t get an England international keeper on loan
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Goalkeeper thread.
And Lindergarrd. I can guarantee you now we won’t get an England international keeper on loan
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Both of them have their faults but they make the odd save or two
I'd spend my money on a striker who scores the odd goal or two
Such a shocking mistake for Rudd to make. Completely changed the complexion of the game. Imho he hadn't refocused after nearly messing up with Browne a minute earlier.
Realistically both keepers probably aren't all that. At this stage they are both on long-term deals though. An experienced keeping coach is required to come in and help manage the situation imho.
Realistically both keepers probably aren't all that. At this stage they are both on long-term deals though. An experienced keeping coach is required to come in and help manage the situation imho.
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Both keepers are decent enough.
Constant focus by a few on goals conceded simply because we don't score enough is a reflection on those who most definitely need to expand there understanding of the game. Have any of you even watched the highlight programs to notice errors from every single professional keeper in every top tier played.
I am not bothered who individuals prefer horses for courses but those who now want to describe both as shite simply because it suits to disguise previous posts need to grow some!
Since Maxwell is my preferred choice let me point out once again -
Last season-
He had a top 6 save rate
Took more crosses than anyone
Made more interceptions than anyone
He faced one of the lowest shot levels
no one made more key passes
He was in the top 4 for distribution volume
He was in the top couple for passing accuracy (team style means you have to make an informed view)
He had a 30odd % clean sheet rate
So seems he was one of the best in one of the most competitive and highest quality leagues in the world whilst some PRO EVO or FIFA stars think he is shite.
wow!
Constant focus by a few on goals conceded simply because we don't score enough is a reflection on those who most definitely need to expand there understanding of the game. Have any of you even watched the highlight programs to notice errors from every single professional keeper in every top tier played.
I am not bothered who individuals prefer horses for courses but those who now want to describe both as shite simply because it suits to disguise previous posts need to grow some!
Since Maxwell is my preferred choice let me point out once again -
Last season-
He had a top 6 save rate
Took more crosses than anyone
Made more interceptions than anyone
He faced one of the lowest shot levels
no one made more key passes
He was in the top 4 for distribution volume
He was in the top couple for passing accuracy (team style means you have to make an informed view)
He had a 30odd % clean sheet rate
So seems he was one of the best in one of the most competitive and highest quality leagues in the world whilst some PRO EVO or FIFA stars think he is shite.
wow!
A lot of the pro Rudd brigade have realised that Rudd isn’t all that, and so have also come to the conclusion that Maxwell isn’t all that as well.
Think Maxwell is a very decent keeper at this level, but it’s all about opinions.
As one of the pro-Rudd brigade if you will I have realised Rudd is very low on confidence so needs dropping due to his errors. The problem seems to be that the pro-Maxwell brigade find it difficult to do the same
I was calling for Maxwell to dropped when he was struggling last season, as were many. I don’t get your point here.
We simply don’t keep clean sheets when Rudd is in goals, he is reactive and not proactive. But a lot of people seem to have come to the conclusion that Maxwell is a poor keeper just because Rudd is going through a bad spell.
It wasn't aimed at you specifically but there are a lot of posters who refuse to accept that Maxwell is very error prone.
Maxwell is a good keeper. He is just a bit kamikaze for my liking. I have o problem with the whole sweeper keeper thing but Maxwell is reckless with it.
Currently I would rather have his recklessness than Rudd who is devoid of all confidence.
Pretty much how I see it. Preferred Rudd on the whole but if he's not on form give Maxi a go.
Maxwell is error prone and probably makes more mistakes then Rudd. But this (IMO) is because he comes out an awful lot and that will produce mistakes (e.g. Fulham away.) Having said that - he will save a lot more goals doing this. There are a lot of goals this and last season that we have conceded because Rudd stayed on his line. Bolton and QPR away last season and Derby this. Even the chance that QPR had last minute was because Rudd stayed on his line. Yes it was a fantastic save but it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
The best keepers are the proactive ones not the reactive ones.
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Error prone - maybe you can enlighten us on you observation with a list?
He has played 60ish times for us. FFS Fulham!! Everyone ignores him keeping us in that game and the penalty given away.
Please be mindful that Rudd made 3 errors creating goal scoring opportunities yesterday alone.
Punch first half giving away possession 20 yards out
Call for the ball then shanked
Goal
And Maxwell created 2 goalscoring opportunities from errors against Leeds.
This was exactly the point I was making earlier
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So if they're both capable of making errors, then might as well play the one who takes more risks but can more proactively stop threats?
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Error prone - against Norwich, Sunderland and Burton last season - Maxwell rushing out led to a goal scoring opportunity or a potential hand ball in sunderland's case.
Against Barnsley at home he went to catch the ball, dropped and they had a chance which they probably should have scored.
Birmingham at home - both him and Huntington were to blame.
Derby and Morecombe at home - should have saved the shot.
Now i'm not having a go at Maxwell because coming out a lot/taking risks will lead to more mistakes being made - example was the Liverpool goalkeeper yesterday.
And actually if you read my post back I think Maxwell is the better keeper because as mentioned being proactive is a lot better then reactive.
Rudd does make mistakes but not as many BUT there were times last and this season where he has stayed rooted to his line and the opposition have scored. Bolton/QPR away are two examples. QPR at home this season we got away with because of a fantastic save but it shouldn't have come to that.
Last point: Our defence before Christmas was better with Maxwell. I also remember us conceding a lot less goals from set pieces with Maxwell in net then Rudd. I agree with you - Maxwell should be starting.
I sense Maxwell is a cockier character (saw a picture in the summer he had posted somewhere running bare topped on holiday, with Love Island esque pumped physique) and maybe throws his toys out of the pram when not picked. Whereas Rudd the vegan is probably a nicer bloke to have around and therefore AN is more inclined to pick him. However over a decent number of games for both the stats say that Maxwell is the better keeper and I’m in his camp.
“Rudd the vegan is probably a nicer bloke to have around”. Hahahahaha
I can assure you that being vegan does not make you a nice person