Grayson, Grayson ...
You were banned for being a repetitive, boring, annoying, pain in the arse tbh .... you seem much nicer now though 🙂
As SG awakes this morning with his return to Deepdale fast approaching I wonder what is going through his mind.
When he left us never in a million years did he think Sunderland would be next to bottom and PNE pushing for a top spot in the lead up to this game, he probably thought the reverse.
He must be really looking forwards to Saturday afternoon.
If he can't raise his team for this one then they really are in trouble.
When he left us never in a million years did he think Sunderland would be next to bottom and PNE pushing for a top spot in the lead up to this game, he probably thought the reverse.
He must be really looking forwards to Saturday afternoon.
If he can't raise his team for this one then they really are in trouble.
Sunderland manager Simon Grayson has told Sky Bet that he insists he needs time to turn the club’s fortunes around.
The Black Cats are currently languishing in the Sky Bet Championship relegation zone and suffered another defeat at the hands of Ipswich Town on Tuesday night to pile the pressure onto their boss.
Sunderland are on offer at 7/2 with Sky Bet to be relegated.
Grayson takes his side back to former club Preston North End this weekend and insisted in an exclusive interview with EFL sponsor Sky Bet that his side was a “work in progress”.
He said: "Since I’ve been at the club I’ve tried to stress that we want to get promotion but we’ve not spent the money that other clubs have, but also we’ve not got a God-given right to it.
"We’ve got to have a sense that it’s a work in progress, I don’t really like using that word too much, but it is because of the turnaround of players that have gone out the club and everybody knows there isn’t the finances available because of what happens.
"There is a hangover from the Premiership days, no doubt, but what we wanted to do is try and create some positivity, get the players playing for the shirt and get an affiliation back with the supporters and that won’t happen overnight.
"You need to get the team to gel and working like you want it to work, because it took me two or three years to do that at Preston, you have to build slowly, you have to build window to window and be given time to allow that to happen."
Grayson also revealed that he "wasn’t surprised” at the success his former club Preston are experiencing this season because of the strength of the squad he left behind.
He added: "When I left that football club I left some very talented players. When you look at them you probably have a squad with a current value of about £20million and we probably spent about £2million to put it all together.
"I think it’s reflected that Alex [Neil] has not really had to bring too many players in because he felt he had a good squad there, which I definitely knew, but ultimately he’s made his mark and got off to a good start.
"I’m pleased for them; I’m pleased for the supporters because it’s obviously a club that I’ve got a lot of affiliation to.
“You spend four and a half years at a club and you get to know supporters, you get a working relationship with people above you, the owner, and you have a lot of respect for them.
"It was certainly a tough decision to make when I left that club and I look back with fond memories, but it’s about what I do in the future and obviously, I’ll be desperate to go back and try and get three points."
The Black Cats are currently languishing in the Sky Bet Championship relegation zone and suffered another defeat at the hands of Ipswich Town on Tuesday night to pile the pressure onto their boss.
Sunderland are on offer at 7/2 with Sky Bet to be relegated.
Grayson takes his side back to former club Preston North End this weekend and insisted in an exclusive interview with EFL sponsor Sky Bet that his side was a “work in progress”.
He said: "Since I’ve been at the club I’ve tried to stress that we want to get promotion but we’ve not spent the money that other clubs have, but also we’ve not got a God-given right to it.
"We’ve got to have a sense that it’s a work in progress, I don’t really like using that word too much, but it is because of the turnaround of players that have gone out the club and everybody knows there isn’t the finances available because of what happens.
"There is a hangover from the Premiership days, no doubt, but what we wanted to do is try and create some positivity, get the players playing for the shirt and get an affiliation back with the supporters and that won’t happen overnight.
"You need to get the team to gel and working like you want it to work, because it took me two or three years to do that at Preston, you have to build slowly, you have to build window to window and be given time to allow that to happen."
Grayson also revealed that he "wasn’t surprised” at the success his former club Preston are experiencing this season because of the strength of the squad he left behind.
He added: "When I left that football club I left some very talented players. When you look at them you probably have a squad with a current value of about £20million and we probably spent about £2million to put it all together.
"I think it’s reflected that Alex [Neil] has not really had to bring too many players in because he felt he had a good squad there, which I definitely knew, but ultimately he’s made his mark and got off to a good start.
"I’m pleased for them; I’m pleased for the supporters because it’s obviously a club that I’ve got a lot of affiliation to.
“You spend four and a half years at a club and you get to know supporters, you get a working relationship with people above you, the owner, and you have a lot of respect for them.
"It was certainly a tough decision to make when I left that club and I look back with fond memories, but it’s about what I do in the future and obviously, I’ll be desperate to go back and try and get three points."
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All fair points from SG. Rome wasn't built in a day and Sunderland is in a far worse state than Rome was.
Looking forward to seeing him bring his team here, giving him and McGeady a big cheer at the start, then hoping we can focus on the future and take three points for our promotion push.
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Can't disagree with you We8, he did a great job for us and my fear is that when Sunderland sack him, which must be imminent, they try to lure Alex Neil away.
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That's happened to me before bud, if it wasn't for jack Daniels id be mincemeat by now.
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Agreed - Pearson is worth £19.5 million.
Lets just change 1 word of the normal Grayson chant to wind up the Sunderland fans....
Simon Grayson is a white..... etc HE HATES "MACKEMS" ...
HERE WE GO AGAIN
BY TOM LYNN
Here we are again in September needing to sack a manager in order to survive, but unlike last season when the hapless, hopeless, defeatist, gutless [insert negative adjective] Moyes was allowed to stay until he’d taken us down without a fight in the most hideous manner possible, and having spent over £30m on utter tripe in the main, Sunderland owner Ellis Short simply must relieve Grayson of his duties right now or it will be a second successive relegation for a currently demoralised SAFC.
Whilst there’s an argument to see what happens when the manager can choose from a full squad and get McManaman, Williams, McGready and Watmore out on the pitch together, the reality is that Si’s overall managerial skills to date have been appalling. Constant chopping and changing, poor use of substitutions, playing systems including three at the back that the players looked perplexed by, lack of passion, will to win, and fielding physically weak and midget like teams that have been totally overpowered by strong, determined but distinctly average sides such as Leeds, Sheffield United, Forest, Cardiff and Ipswich and murdered by a Barnsley team thanks to several clearly disinterested, unprofessional players who are obviously not responding to his, erm, methods.
Indeed, what is in the majority of players’ minds as they look at, and listen to, Simon Grayson? What do you think our performances portray regarding their opinion of him to date? Respect? A willingness to fight for him? Apathy? Disinterest? Confusion?
The goalkeeping position sums Grayson’s ridiculous management up to date for me and I use this as one pertinent example because if I listed them all, you’d still be reading this twenty-four hours later. He oversaw the sale of Mannone [before you say ‘Bain sold him’, then if that’s the case it shows how weak Grayson was to allow it] to Reading for £2m. Mannone was a competent professional who was proud to play for our club and whilst not brilliant, would have been fine in this division. Instead Grayson has chosen Jason Steele, fresh from relegated Blackburn and Robbin Ruiter, an undistinguished thirty year old from FC Utrecht in Holland. Steele cost £500k, Ruiter was a free. However, their combined signing on fees and wages in relation to the length of their contracts will hardly be a million miles financially from what Mannone was sold for. Neither is as good as Mannone. Another SAFC transfer cock-up.
Grayson is a dead man walking already-the stats outline this if any of his apologists want literal proof. Soon we will be giving ourselves little room for manoeuvre in a battle against relegation if we do not act swiftly and end his short, farcical reign at the SoL as the current rumours of administration could otherwise become an unavoidable reality.
Short and Bain are far from blameless in the current farcical situation we find ourselves in, with the last two home crowds v Forest and Cardiff allegedly sub 20k if the practice of counting season card holders who are not actually physically attending was not allowed, but they must act now for the good of SAFC. Watching Grayson’s recent interviews, he looks like a rabbit in the headlights, like little boy lost. SAFC is too big for him and whilst we have sacked too many managers in recent times and need stability, Simon will not give it to us short or long term.
Finally, Martin Bain stated preseason the club wanted to “put a smile on the supporters faces”. Lol, lol and more lol! How much more crap are we expected to put up with, SAFC?
BY TOM LYNN
Here we are again in September needing to sack a manager in order to survive, but unlike last season when the hapless, hopeless, defeatist, gutless [insert negative adjective] Moyes was allowed to stay until he’d taken us down without a fight in the most hideous manner possible, and having spent over £30m on utter tripe in the main, Sunderland owner Ellis Short simply must relieve Grayson of his duties right now or it will be a second successive relegation for a currently demoralised SAFC.
Whilst there’s an argument to see what happens when the manager can choose from a full squad and get McManaman, Williams, McGready and Watmore out on the pitch together, the reality is that Si’s overall managerial skills to date have been appalling. Constant chopping and changing, poor use of substitutions, playing systems including three at the back that the players looked perplexed by, lack of passion, will to win, and fielding physically weak and midget like teams that have been totally overpowered by strong, determined but distinctly average sides such as Leeds, Sheffield United, Forest, Cardiff and Ipswich and murdered by a Barnsley team thanks to several clearly disinterested, unprofessional players who are obviously not responding to his, erm, methods.
Indeed, what is in the majority of players’ minds as they look at, and listen to, Simon Grayson? What do you think our performances portray regarding their opinion of him to date? Respect? A willingness to fight for him? Apathy? Disinterest? Confusion?
The goalkeeping position sums Grayson’s ridiculous management up to date for me and I use this as one pertinent example because if I listed them all, you’d still be reading this twenty-four hours later. He oversaw the sale of Mannone [before you say ‘Bain sold him’, then if that’s the case it shows how weak Grayson was to allow it] to Reading for £2m. Mannone was a competent professional who was proud to play for our club and whilst not brilliant, would have been fine in this division. Instead Grayson has chosen Jason Steele, fresh from relegated Blackburn and Robbin Ruiter, an undistinguished thirty year old from FC Utrecht in Holland. Steele cost £500k, Ruiter was a free. However, their combined signing on fees and wages in relation to the length of their contracts will hardly be a million miles financially from what Mannone was sold for. Neither is as good as Mannone. Another SAFC transfer cock-up.
Grayson is a dead man walking already-the stats outline this if any of his apologists want literal proof. Soon we will be giving ourselves little room for manoeuvre in a battle against relegation if we do not act swiftly and end his short, farcical reign at the SoL as the current rumours of administration could otherwise become an unavoidable reality.
Short and Bain are far from blameless in the current farcical situation we find ourselves in, with the last two home crowds v Forest and Cardiff allegedly sub 20k if the practice of counting season card holders who are not actually physically attending was not allowed, but they must act now for the good of SAFC. Watching Grayson’s recent interviews, he looks like a rabbit in the headlights, like little boy lost. SAFC is too big for him and whilst we have sacked too many managers in recent times and need stability, Simon will not give it to us short or long term.
Finally, Martin Bain stated preseason the club wanted to “put a smile on the supporters faces”. Lol, lol and more lol! How much more crap are we expected to put up with, SAFC?
Grayson, Grayson ...
It's because of impatient twats like that that clubs do sack manager after manager, prematurely.
Grayson's interview is bob on - sorting a mess takes time. And it is his assembled squad that's doing well here, that's a fact. He's a good manager.
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It's because of impatient twats like that that clubs do sack manager after manager, prematurely.
Grayson's interview is bob on - sorting a mess takes time. And it is his assembled squad that's doing well here, that's a fact. He's a good manager.
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Player power rules at Sunderland and is the reason they've been getting worse and worse. Grayson needs time to do a "Westley" and change the entire landscape, even if he ends up getting sacked at some point he needs time to root out the rot the club is in thanks to greedy, mainly foreign players.
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I'm not sure we should have any sympathy whatsoever for Sunderland. They usually turn things around and will probably come back strongly sooner or later, and despite their fans impatience - particularly those that believe its a massive club - Grayson is probably their best bet at this moment, of shoring up the team spirit and then their performances.
North End's players truly need to let Grayson understand - not that he made a mistake in leaving, but to show him the liberation and improvement they have experienced since he departed. This can be achieved by absolutely annihilating Sunderland on Saturday afternoon.
For what its worth, Sunderland fans would be sensible to simply get behind Grayson. But they don't seem the types, somehow. If things go tits up early in the match for Sunderland, I can imagine their fans getting quite nasty towards their players and manager. North End fans won't needed to stick in the boot.
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Correct.
For some it's always the managers fault and never (rarely / less often) the players.
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Grayson may well get the boot before too long but I doubt his reputation would be unduly scarred by it. People within football will know what a mess that club is in. Their fans need to wake up to the reality. They've been chronically mismanaged for years and that isn't going to be undone in the space of a season. They need to accept that they're going to have to go backwards before they go forwards again.
Grayson can only get credit for what he did here.
However his point that he isnt surprised how well we are doing is a bit damning. They could have done it last year if he'd been a bit more adventurous in his tactics, and let the shackles off the players.
Also he shouldnt be taking any credit for the defence as Earl and Davies weren't in his plans, and Fisher wasn't here. That's 3 out of the current back 4!
However his point that he isnt surprised how well we are doing is a bit damning. They could have done it last year if he'd been a bit more adventurous in his tactics, and let the shackles off the players.
Also he shouldnt be taking any credit for the defence as Earl and Davies weren't in his plans, and Fisher wasn't here. That's 3 out of the current back 4!