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[Mer5eywhite]

I really don’t condone personal abuse of the players or the manager and I don’t see what good it does but as fans I actually think we have been unbelievably patient.
We waited until mid-September for our first goal at home.
We waited until October until our first win at home.

Our home record in the league is:
P14 W3 D4 L7 F9 A20

Our home record in all comps is:
P16 W4 D4 L8 F12 A24

To put that into perspective, in my worst season following North End (85/86) we won 7 league games at home and we had 5 home league wins at this stage of the season. We currently have 3.

And that was the year we had to apply for re-election to the football league.

 

[raefil]

Just to be clear the reason Ive stopped going on games is not because we are getting beat but its because I sit there bored out of my mind.

I was there in re-election season and whilst it was grim it was also fun. This is tedious beyond belief.

 

[Mer5eywhite]

I really don’t condone personal abuse of the players or the manager and I don’t see what good it does but as fans I actually think we have been unbelievably patient.
We waited until mid-September for our first goal at home.
We waited until October until our first win at home.

Our home record in the league is:
P12 W3 D4 L7 F9 A20

Our home record in all comps is:
P14 W4 D4 L8 F12 A24

To put that into perspective, in my worst season following North End (85/86) we won 7 league games at home and we had 5 home league wins at this stage of the season. We currently have 3.

And that was the year we had to apply for re-election to the football league.

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P14 league

P16 league and cup

 

[Thracia]

We waited until mid-September for our first goal at home.
We waited until October until our first win at home.

And we only had to wait until November 1st for our last win at home - none since, and no draws either, just 5 straight defeats.

Patience-wise, we're saintly.

 

[Doc Brown]

In 2010/11 (relegation season) and 2011/12 (15th in L1) we won 7 home games, so the same as in the re-election season.

In 2012/13 (14th in L1) we managed 8.

The fact we’re on course to manage fewer home wins in a season than those 3 horror shows is astounding.

 

[Bodney Rewes]

And we only had to wait until November 1st for our last win at home - none since, and no draws either, just 5 straight defeats.

Patience-wise, we're saintly.

Jesus we've only had one month of wins at home in the league

 

[OOOO3]

I have left early more times this season than I have throughout all the other seasons combined.

My £280 season ticket looked a steal per match I attend. I’ve decided to work it out per goal I’ve see us score. It’s depressing.

I’ve had enough and 2 of the season ticket holders I sit with only bought for the offer…. they like many others regret it.

I booed and I jeered, not because we got beat but because these overpaid sportsmen don’t appear to give a shit.

Lowe is happy to take the plaudits and do his fist pumps. He has to accept when we are awful he will get the adverse reaction.

The guy is all talk and sadly clueless

 

[shabbagaz]

Unfortunately this will go over a lot of people's heads. All they see is "four points off the play-offs" and the rest of us are apparently "ungrateful".

The home form is completely unacceptable - it's not just the stats that tell the story but the standard of football in general is and has been appalling. Unfortunately some seem to gloss over that.

 

[Thracia]

Jesus we've only had one month of wins at home in the league

The only players who started all 3 of our home league wins are Woodman, Lindsay, Storey, Whiteman, Browne, Brady, McCann and Riis.

Those 8 players haven't started a game together since (and with Riis now injured, never will).

(Fernandez and Potts started 2 of them.)

(And for completeness: Cunningham, Hughes, Woodburn, Maguire and Evans started one each.)

 

[beagleman]

Just to be clear the reason Ive stopped going on games is not because we are getting beat but its because I sit there bored out of my mind.

I was there in re-election season and whilst it was grim it was also fun. This is tedious beyond belief.

Last time I went on I actually sat daydreaming about shopping...nothing to keep my attention focused on the pitch

 

[northender2]

In 2010/11 (relegation season) and 2011/12 (15th in L1) we won 7 home games, so the same as in the re-election season.

In 2012/13 (14th in L1) we managed 8.

The fact we’re on course to manage fewer home wins in a season than those 3 horror shows is astounding.

even that relegation season had some exciting games, there were very few home games where we failed to score, the issue was that we were conceeding too many, this year has just been boring, 9 home goals is pathetic

 

[Dreyfuss]

Unfortunately this will go over a lot of people's heads. All they see is "four points off the play-offs" and the rest of us are apparently "ungrateful".

The whole "four points off playoffs" attitude is misplaced logic. It suggests we've been keeping in touch when all that's happened is teams lower down in the table have picked up form.

Here's the table on Xmas day...

Boro, Luton, West Brom have all stormed up the table from 14th, 15th, 16th... to 3rd, 4th, 6th respectively. (They've each took 15 points from their last six games. Whilst PNE took 6 pts in the same time period)

Unless there's a radical change in our own form we won't be able to keep in touching distance of the play offs for much longer. I'd expect any top six aspirations will be over by the start of March.

 

[Ando60]

Just to be clear the reason Ive stopped going on games is not because we are getting beat but its because I sit there bored out of my mind.

I was there in re-election season and whilst it was grim it was also fun. This is tedious beyond belief.

Totally agree Phil….

As depressing as 1985 was results wise , at least going to the games had an element of fun about them…

Or maybe it was the 6 or 7 pints that we had before kick off….

 

[Thracia]

The whole "four points off playoffs" attitude is misplaced logic. It suggests we've been keeping in touch when all that's happened is teams lower down in the table have picked up form.

Here's the table on Xmas day...

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Boro, Luton, West Brom have all stormed up the table from 14th, 15th, 16th... to 3rd, 4th, 6th respectively. (They've each took 15 points from their last six games. Whilst PNE took 6 pts in the same time period)

Unless there's a radical change in our own form we won't be able to keep in touching distance of the play offs for much longer. I'd expect any top six aspirations will be over by the start of March.

Yep, what we've actually done is not keep in touch with the play-offs (we were "level 6th" at xmas, remember that bullshit?), we've kept in touch with the mediocrities who are propping us up in the table, like Reading (6 points since xmas, just like us), QPR (5 points), Coventry (5 points), Stoke (4 points), Brum (3 points).

While of course parachute-payment-chugging giants (© CH/PR) like Luton (18 points), Hull (14 points) and Millwall (11 points) have set the real pace, along with Boro (18 points), West Brom (15 points) and Sunderland (11 points).

This isn't a poor Championship division overall - it just has quite a lot of very poor sides in it, like us - and at the moment, they are thankfully below us. Let's hope they don't find some form relative to ours.

 

[lenny]

The whole "four points off playoffs" attitude is misplaced logic. It suggests we've been keeping in touch when all that's happened is teams lower down in the table have picked up form.

Here's the table on Xmas day...

View attachment 10972

Boro, Luton, West Brom have all stormed up the table from 14th, 15th, 16th... to 3rd, 4th, 6th respectively. (They've each took 15 points from their last six games. Whilst PNE took 6 pts in the same time period)

Unless there's a radical change in our own form we won't be able to keep in touching distance of the play offs for much longer. I'd expect any top six aspirations will be over by the start of March.

Will people stop mentioning the play offs, several teams have recruited decent quality players in January while we have signed a player who hasn’t played for 16 months and definitely looks unfit , Two forwards who don’t really score many goals and have to feed off scraps .
The manager seems to have no idea how to change our home form round , the fact we have virtually nobody who can cross a decent cross we have no invention from free kicks and corners, just hit it somewhere near the middle and hope we get a head on it which we very rarely do . The midfield gets over run in most games so we just end up booting the ball up the pitch in the hope we might get an odd chance .
The defence always seems to have a mistake or lack of concentration in every game they play , add all that together and the sooner we get over the 50 point mark the better . Play offs MY ARSE . 😰

 

[Dreyfuss]

Yep, what we've actually done is not keep in touch with the play-offs (we were "level 6th" at xmas, remember that bullshit?), we've kept in touch with the mediocrities who are propping us up in the table, like Reading (6 points since xmas, just like us), QPR (5 points), Coventry (5 points), Stoke (4 points), Brum (3 points).

While of course parachute-payment-chugging giants (© CH/PR) like Luton (18 points), Hull (14 points) and Millwall (11 points) have set the real pace, along with Boro (18 points), West Brom (15 points) and Sunderland (11 points).

This isn't a poor Championship division overall - it just has quite a lot of very poor sides in it, like us - and at the moment, they are thankfully below us. Let's hope they don't find some form relative to ours.

Burnley have won 11 of their last 12. So I'd assume next weekend is gonna be a car crash. Just hope it doesn't end up embarrassing.

But then we have two other form teams next up. Luton (W7 D2 L3 - 23pts) and Hull (W5 D5 L2 - 20pts). Before we play the hapless Wigan.

I think after the next four games, it'll be flip flop time for our players. No hope of top six. No hope of relegation.

We are fortunate the bottom set of teams are all terribly out of form with no sign of recover. The likes of Wigan, Blackpool & Birmingham have all only won 1 of their last 12 games.

We probably only need to average 1 point per game to stave off any relegation battle. So a league finish between 13th to 17th seems most likely.

 

[Henry Weston]

Burnley have won 11 of their last 12. So I'd assume next weekend is gonna be a car crash. Just hope it doesn't end up embarrassing.

But then we have two other form teams next up. Luton (W7 D2 L3 - 23pts) and Hull (W5 D5 L2 - 20pts). Before we play the hapless Wigan.

I think after the next four games, it'll be flip flop time for our players. No hope of top six. No hope of relegation.

We are fortunate the bottom set of teams are all terribly out of form with no sign of recover. The likes of Wigan, Blackpool & Birmingham have all only won 1 of their last 12 games.

We probably only need to average 1 point per game to stave off any relegation battle. So a league finish between 13th to 17th seems most likely.

Realistically(and fortunately!) I’d say we only need about another 10 points from the remaining 17 games.

And then next season………🫣

 

[Ando60]

Yep, what we've actually done is not keep in touch with the play-offs (we were "level 6th" at xmas, remember that bullshit?), we've kept in touch with the mediocrities who are propping us up in the table, like Reading (6 points since xmas, just like us), QPR (5 points), Coventry (5 points), Stoke (4 points), Brum (3 points).

While of course parachute-payment-chugging giants (© CH/PR) like Luton (18 points), Hull (14 points) and Millwall (11 points) have set the real pace, along with Boro (18 points), West Brom (15 points) and Sunderland (11 points).

This isn't a poor Championship division overall - it just has quite a lot of very poor sides in it, like us - and at the moment, they are thankfully below us. Let's hope they don't find some form relative to ours.

One thing is for sure Thracia, if we keep up our dreadful home form , then we will be dragged into the relegation fight

 

[Dreyfuss]

Realistically(and fortunately!) I’d say we only need about another 10 points from the remaining 17 games.

And then next season………🫣

Yeah next season. That's the worry. Likes of Everton, Bournemouth & Southampton perhaps. Potentially joined by Sheff Wed, Plymouth & Ipswich.

The league would get trickier immediately once we've flushed out the likes of Wigan, Blackpool & Huddersfield.

Our current cost cutting strategy with no long term aims, is setting us up for being one of the real minnows next season.

Sheff Wed & Ipswich would certainly spend big on wages if they get up. We wouldn't be replacing bottom three budget sides like Wigan and Blackpool with two L1 paupers.

 

[Henry Weston]

Yeah next season. That's the worry. Likes of Everton, Bournemouth & Southampton perhaps. Potentially joined by Sheff Wed, Plymouth & Ipswich.

The league would get trickier immediately once we've flushed out the likes of Wigan, Blackpool & Huddersfield.

Our current cost cutting strategy with no long term aims, is setting us up for being one of the real minnows next season.

Sheff Wed & Ipswich would certainly spend big on wages if they get up. We wouldn't be replacing bottom three budget sides like Wigan and Blackpool with two L1 paupers.

Absolutely right. I’d make us odds on for relegation next season with the current set up, manager included ☹️