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How many points

How many points

To finish 6th you only need to beat 7th place total, looking at the final figures for 6th doesn't show you the lowest final points or goal difference needed. For example last season Fulham finished 6th with 80 points and a GD of 28, they would still have finished 6th with a points total of 75 as long as they beat Leeds GD of 14 by 1 goal. Therefore looking at points for finishing in 6th is not the key question its what you need to beat to finish in 6th.
 
Precisely. So to use the exact same analogy, last season if you got 76 points you'd have got more points than 7th. That's means you would have finished 7th, not 6th, because you had fewer points than 6th. Therefore the points tally for the side finishing 6th is key as that's the side you need to beat, not the side in 7th.
 
HeyshamWhite said:
Precisely. So to use the exact same analogy, last season if you got 76 points you'd have got more points than 7th. That's means you would have finished 7th, not 6th, because you had fewer points than 6th. Therefore the points tally for the side finishing 6th is key as that's the side you need to beat, not the side in 7th.
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HeyshamWhite said:
Precisely. So to use the exact same analogy, last season if you got 76 points you'd have got more points than 7th. That's means you would have finished 7th, not 6th, because you had fewer points than 6th. Therefore the points tally for the side finishing 6th is key as that's the side you need to beat, not the side in 7th.
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If you get more points than the team which finishes 7th then you finish above 7th place. Simple logic.
 
Off topic , but if you look at millwalls form and there remaining games, they are going to play a role in the points picked up by teams around us
 
If you are running 3rd in a race and you pass the person in 2nd place what place are you in?

I suspect there are people on here that may answer this with 1st....
 
paddysr said:
If you are running 3rd in a race and you pass the person in 2nd place what place are you in?

I suspect there are people on here that may answer this with 1st....
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You're just doing it differently, if you were to insert us into last season's table we'd need to beat the points total of 6th to get the play offs, if the 7th place finisher this season finished on the same points total as the 7th place finisher last season, we'd only need 1 more point than that to get 6th.
 
Delaney said:
You're just doing it differently, if you were to insert us into last season's table we'd need to beat the points total of 6th to get the play offs, if the 7th place finisher this season finished on the same points total as the 7th place finisher last season, we'd only need 1 more point than that to get 6th.
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No I'm doing it correctly. To finish in 6th we need to finish with a higher points total than the team currently sat in 6th.

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Delaney said:
He was talking about last season mate, doing it differently.
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And as has been pointed out last season's 6th place finisher was on 80 points. In order to have pushed them into 7th we would have needed 81 points as that would have meant 7th finished on 80. Simple maths pal.

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paddysr said:
And as has been pointed out last season's 6th place finisher was on 80 points. In order to have pushed them into 7th we would have needed 81 points as that would have meant 7th finished on 80. Simple maths pal.

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Yes, but if the team that finishes in 7th this season has say 72 points, how many points would the 6th place team need to guarantee sixth?
 
Delaney said:
Yes, but if the team that finishes in 7th this season has say 72 points, how many points would the 6th place team need to guarantee sixth?
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Clearly 73 but that's not the point that is being made.

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paddysr said:
Clearly 73 but that's not the point that is being made.

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Barack was saying that in previous years the sixth place team could have got sixth by having any points total higher than what the seventh place team had, so bettering previous years seventh place finisher's points total may well be enough, you were saying that we need to beat the points total of whoever would finish sixth without our inclusion, as I said before you're making different points both of which are correct
 
Christ on a stick, I know I declared earlier that I'm far from a maths genius but this thread has made me feel much more competent than I did previously.
 
There has been a wide variation in points gained by teams finishing 6th in the last 6 years:

16/17 - 80
15/16 - 74
14/15 - 78
13/14 - 72
12/13 - 68
11/12 - 75

There will be a lot of points dropped in the run in. Anyone who puts in a decent run in has a great shout - lets hope its us.
 
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