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VernonsBoots

VernonsBoots

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.......people who are regulars on here and Deepdale know of people who used to go to games and have stopped going.
What are their reasons and what would make them come back to Deepdale.

My Dad was a season ticket holder for years, he's now 68, and hasn't been a regular for 15 years or more, not even 2 trips to Cardiff.
When I ask him to come to the matches it's a case of 'having better things to do'. It's not the money because he has a few bob tucked away, I think he just got out of the habit. He loves football and always listens to games on the radio but alas seems destined never to be a regular again. I suspect there are many more like him from his generation.
 
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Ive got about 8 mates who say they would love to come on, but just cant afford it.

My Grandad said that the next time he goes on PNE will be when were in the top flight (Great Fan) 😀
 
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My mate Kenneth Barlow used to come to games with me.

Recently he became addicted to PCP, and so something had to give.

"Aw shucks," he said when he missed Paddy's goal, but as for the other games he's missed in the past 2 years - well it's money well spent I'd say.
 
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Like I said on another thread - there appears to be no use of the data base held by PNE. Up to this season I was a season ticket holder but because I knew in advance that I would be missing about 10 home games this season I decided to 'pay by the match'. To date I have had no email, telephone call or any other contact asking why I didn't renew this season - they know I'm not dead yet as I have purchased tickets by phone, pne.com and in person when they ask my postal code and name so a record of all transactions is known. I would expect any pro active organisation to at least assertain why people are not renewing and also doing customer satisfaction surveys - still this is PNE and we have all come to expect the standards currently employed by the marketing and advertising departments. I will, god willing, be renewing my ST next year when I expect only to miss 2-3 home matches.
 
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Sounds like what is needed in marketing speak is a bit of CRM - customer relationship management. Does PNE have a marketing manager/department?

Assuming they collect that kind of data you mentioned - they should have a pretty handy customer database - they just need to be a bit smarter about using it to their benefit.
 
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What i cannot stand is the glory hunters who appear last game of the season or playoffs. Wht cant they come every week if they want to watch it?
 
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I think there is the start of a backlash against football generally - when you hear the likes of a certain Mr Cole formerley of Highbury Parish being insulted at a £5000 per week rise and that Heir Ballack is moaning about property prices in the capital whilst trousering £135k per week it is little wonder that the average Joe is not enamoured to the game. My WAFC mates mostly
cannot afford away games and their season tickets are down despite a successful campaign last term.

Erikson is currently pulling £13000 PER DAY from the FA - many reading this will be holding raffles and car boot sales to buy goalposts and kits for their lads junior football team.Mug punters are a thing of the past.Add this to the Wembley debacle and a dismal World Cup and you have ingredients for apathy.

The cost of attending a game and its associated fayre is simply prohibitive to many ; particularly away from home. 24/7 access to football on telly even at £43 a month is enough footy for many.

On a local level there is a perceived view of lack of ambition - true or false this is the message that the PNE floaters are getting. I dont think we are alone in this - I believe BRFC chairman bemoned his missing fans for watching footy on TV - this whilst taking huge amounts of dosh courtesy of SKY TV subscribers.- you can t have it both ways mate !

You see the deal is quite simple - without a generous benefactor or gates in excess of 25000 it is highly unlikely that PNE will reach the Premiership and all the financial benefits that offers. Its not a level playing field anymore and I doubt it ever will be again - there is a generation of kid s- even young adults - being brought up in a climate of "greed is good " and these people will tie their colours to the mast of the first ship home - just look at the increase in Chelsea shirts in your town.Central contracts or wage cappings are a solution - but the power brokers are not having any of this.

So is football finished ? well maybe as the more mature fan remembers it ,but believe me should the economy take a down turn, season tickets . SKY subscription and replica kits will be the first to be struck off the "must have " lists and where will that leave aspiring Coles and Ballacks and Eriksons of this world ?
 
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my dad took me on in the early and mid 70's - stopped going on when I was old enough to go myself - re-appeared for a year or two when promoted in 78 - next and last appearance was at Wembly 94 play-offs - his words on the coach coming home - "how do put with performances like that - my neck's killing me"? (John Beck).
 
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When i was at school i would struggle to find someone to talk to about north end up until last 10 games when were looking like getting in the play-offs! Then they piss off for a year until were their again! hopefully they will be back again in april/may time 😉
 
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pnematic said:
I think there is the start of a backlash against football generally - when you hear the likes of a certain Mr Cole formerley of Highbury Parish being insulted at a £5000 per week rise and that Heir Ballack is moaning about property prices in the capital whilst trousering £135k per week it is little wonder that the average Joe is not enamoured to the game. My WAFC mates mostly
cannot afford away games and their season tickets are down despite a successful campaign last term.

Erikson is currently pulling £13000 PER DAY from the FA - many reading this will be holding raffles and car boot sales to buy goalposts and kits for their lads junior football team.Mug punters are a thing of the past.Add this to the Wembley debacle and a dismal World Cup and you have ingredients for apathy.

The cost of attending a game and its associated fayre is simply prohibitive to many ; particularly away from home. 24/7 access to football on telly even at £43 a month is enough footy for many.

On a local level there is a perceived view of lack of ambition - true or false this is the message that the PNE floaters are getting. I dont think we are alone in this - I believe BRFC chairman bemoned his missing fans for watching footy on TV - this whilst taking huge amounts of dosh courtesy of SKY TV subscribers.- you can t have it both ways mate !

You see the deal is quite simple - without a generous benefactor or gates in excess of 25000 it is highly unlikely that PNE will reach the Premiership and all the financial benefits that offers. Its not a level playing field anymore and I doubt it ever will be again - there is a generation of kid s- even young adults - being brought up in a climate of "greed is good " and these people will tie their colours to the mast of the first ship home - just look at the increase in Chelsea shirts in your town.Central contracts or wage cappings are a solution - but the power brokers are not having any of this.

So is football finished ? well maybe as the more mature fan remembers it ,but believe me should the economy take a down turn, season tickets . SKY subscription and replica kits will be the first to be struck off the "must have " lists and where will that leave aspiring Coles and Ballacks and Eriksons of this world ?
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Thank you for that post pnematic. It sums up the problems well. If you get a chance watch a video called 'Gary Linnekar is Dead' which talks about the demise of football as well as other sports.
 
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Cheers Jersey and Dazzler - how I wish that I could post a more positive view.......however there are a lot more choices these days.

Do you know that if the football elite reduced their wages and therefore halved the admission costs it would still be in a reasonably healthy state with full grounds and a renewed enthusiasm for the game.

Me - I m lucky being MD of my own business that I can afford the costs - but I m no ones fool and its simply not giving value for money and I m not parting with the hard earned just because I can.
 
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my family must be an oddity! my dad(64),grandad(84),mum(61), son(9) & myself(38) all have season tickets & have for some considerable time,but i must admit the lads i went on with in the 80s & 90s have all stopped going on deepdale & all give different reasons for this so i believe there is no definitive answer to the problem.
 
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I'm an avid north end fan and have been for the last 21 years but now i've got a mortgage I simply can't afford to go on. There must be loads of people in their mid twenties who have recently bought properties at stupid prices and have had to sacrifice going on the North End. Anyone else with this problem?
 
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simonnisbet said:
I'm an avid north end fan and have been for the last 21 years but now i've got a mortgage I simply can't afford to go on. There must be loads of people in their mid twenties who have recently bought properties at stupid prices and have had to sacrifice going on the North End. Anyone else with this problem?
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Exactly right,just got back on the property ladder after a short break,mortgaged to the hilt and with a 5 year old daughter - It's just another sacrifice I had to make.
I will get on a few matches this season, just not every game.
 
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Atmosphere has disappeared.
Football has been shite for the last couple of years.
"Fancy coming on the nobbers mate?
Maybe, how much is it?
£22!
Fuck off!"
 
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I've had a season ticket for numerous years, including last season. Then embarked on a snowboard season for 5 months in the french alps, missing half the season. Just had to lend it to a friend who rarely managed to bring someone along for free!!

Doing the same again this year, so i called up the ticket office knowing that they do half season tickets come christmas time, hoping they can do them for the start of the season instead. Unfortunately they couldnt help me so now i still come to every game, paying full price if i can afford. just means that i cant really afford away games anymore as 40quid a week is a lot if we're at home saturday and midweek. Bit gutting really. Almost missed West Brom game due to money problems, thank god i made it!
 
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A mate of mine had a season ticket for years without fail. In fact he was the lad who managed to drag me along to game even though I hated football! I loved it and he was shocked when I said I wanted to go again and get a ST.

Anyway, during the Brown era, he decided not to renew his ST. He then got out of the habit of going and has only been to a handful of games since.

I know another group of lads wh were casual supporter going to about half the home games. They could make a late decission, turn up on the day, pay cash on the turnstile and stand where they wanted next to ST friends. When the Town End was rebuilt, it meant having to get a ticket first and not being able to with friends. To compound it, you now have to pay an extra £2 if you pay on the day. Many of live outside Preston and it can be annoying paying extra on the day.

In my opinion, when the new stand is built, I think there should be an unreserved, cash turnsile section to make it easier for casual supporters.
 
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VernonsBoots said:
.......people who are regulars on here and Deepdale know of people who used to go to games and have stopped going.
What are their reasons and what would make them come back to Deepdale.

My Dad was a season ticket holder for years, he's now 68, and hasn't been a regular for 15 years or more, not even 2 trips to Cardiff.
When I ask him to come to the matches it's a case of 'having better things to do'. It's not the money because he has a few bob tucked away, I think he just got out of the habit. He loves football and always listens to games on the radio but alas seems destined never to be a regular again. I suspect there are many more like him from his generation.
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My dad exactly same , he`s been on about 10 times in last 20 years , now aged 68. Loves North End , listens to radio regular on match days , but " better things to do "". " All this diving , cant be doing with it "" or so he says . But he loves North End , thats were I got my passion from 40 years ago .
 
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some mates stopped with BD, due to the fact they found @ home we were bring as shite, and refused to pay the money.

Some stopped becasue they are bored of football.

Some just moved away and no longer can make it.

Money, distance and entertainment. They are the reasons.
 
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