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How refreshing ......

How refreshing ......

As far as I can work out the strength of your argument is entirely based on repetition. So far play, lesser bellends would have got bored months ago.

Raefil and Tina are the ones wanting to debate this topic again so I agree with your insult of said posters 🙂
 
It was under Lee Clark in 2010-2011 (43 games) in league one. Grayson was appointed in Feb 2012 and they reached the play offs but missed out.

As the fans were bored and he'd reached his level, they sacked him, rebuilt and BOOM ...... you saw them on match of the day last weekend 🙂
 
No we'd be 2 years ahead of where we are now. Hows it going at Sunderland?

Grayson took us to a level he would/could never have improved upon imho but he got us there ( granted it was plodding ) which needs to be acknowledged..... Neil is a different type altogether and if it can be done then he's the type that will do it................. I reckon that's a fair assessment.

You need to be careful because if it all goes tits up you'll be looking like those who thought Hugill wasn't worth ten bob..................... 🙂
 
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No we'd be 2 years ahead of where we are now.
No proof of that at all, had SG left as soon as he got us promoted we could have got someone in that would have taken us straight back down, but non of us know. All I do know is that of the other two clubs that ended our promotion season above us both ended below us in our first season back so SG cannot have done too bad can he?

it going at Sunderland?
Not very well, just like it didn't go very well for DM last season with them, or the previous few managers. Now is this all down to good managers suddenly becoming poor or is there more to that, e.g. prima donna players, the club being rotten all the way through, etc?
 
Yup so that 3 ..... coincidence?

Did the upward shift with Huddersfield's results suddenly get better after SG was sacked by Huddersfield? Was SG holding them back and as soon as he went they then went on to gain promotion to the Prem? How long it it take Huddersfield Town to make 'significantly progress' after SG left? Or are you just clutching at straws including Huddersfield? I suggest it is the latter.
 
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Did the upward shift with Huddersfield's results suddenly get better after SG was sacked by Huddersfield? Was SG holding them back and as soon as he went they then went on to gain promotion to the Prem? How long it it take Huddersfield Town to make 'significantly progress' after SG left? Or are you just clutching at straws including Huddersfield? I suggest it is the latter.


Grayson achieved a solid Championship status for PNE...That cannot be denied and we should be grateful............All this defending/attacking/bitching/moaning is based purely on HOW he achieved it and the length of time it took........ On balance, he's underated by many and overated by many others..............In general it was pretty grim and non adventurous but it eventually worked............Sounds like a score draw to me. 🙂
 
Grayson achieved a solid Championship status for PNE...That cannot be denied and we should be grateful............All this defending/attacking/bitching/moaning is based purely on HOW he achieved it and the length of time it took........ On balance, he's underated by many and overated by many others..............In general it was pretty grim and non adventurous but it eventually worked............Sounds like a score draw to me. 🙂

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Sums it up for me...
 
No proof of that at all, had SG left as soon as he got us promoted we could have got someone in that would have taken us straight back down, but non of us know. All I do know is that of the other two clubs that ended our promotion season above us both ended below us in our first season back so SG cannot have done too bad can he?


Not very well, just like it didn't go very well for DM last season with them, or the previous few managers. Now is this all down to good managers suddenly becoming poor or is there more to that, e.g. prima donna players, the club being rotten all the way through, etc?
They need to get Westley in and start again 🙂
 
Did the upward shift with Huddersfield's results suddenly get better after SG was sacked by Huddersfield? Was SG holding them back and as soon as he went they then went on to gain promotion to the Prem? How long it it take Huddersfield Town to make 'significantly progress' after SG left? Or are you just clutching at straws including Huddersfield? I suggest it is the latter.

the straws are firmly held with the Grayson supporters .... lets make this simple for you .... he has a level ... after that he's useless! All the clubs that realised have progressed 🙂
 
Grayson achieved a solid Championship status for PNE...That cannot be denied and we should be grateful............All this defending/attacking/bitching/moaning is based purely on HOW he achieved it and the length of time it took........ On balance, he's underated by many and overated by many others..............In general it was pretty grim and non adventurous but it eventually worked............Sounds like a score draw to me. 🙂
I'd say you've pretty much nailed it. THE definitive Grayson appraisal :thumbsup:.
 
No we'd be 2 years ahead of where we are now. Hows it going at Sunderland?

No we wouldn't. We probably will still be in league one playing the likes of Rochdale and Fleetwood week in week out. The only person who seems to want to bring up Grayson on every thread is you. I've moved on think you need to soon or you may be getting withdrawal symptons.

Also let's not forget you really wanted David Moyes as our next manager. A manager who lets not forget has been renowned for playing very very defensive and boring football at his last four jobs. Bit hypocritical don't you think.
 
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