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roofer32

roofer32

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Showed today exactly the type of player he is. A lumbering clueless donkey of a player that's got lucky with the goals he's scored so far this season.

Apart from the classy goal he scored around 2 months ago, he is crap.

His ball control, heading ability and winning of 50/50 headers is easy pickings for Championship centre halfs and even the clueless Moushinio(or whatever he is called) will probably not have an easier opponent all season.

I have trusted Grayson with his decisions, but to continue with 'Dobby' is proving a little frustrating.

Que the Hugil lovers!!
 
He isn't a natural finisher and he lacks composure with his feet, especially in one on one situations. The concern with this, as others have alluded to in the matchday threads in the last week or so, is that these assets can't really be coached. You've either got it or you don't.

For me, Hugill is likeable, hard-working and energetic, but doesn't have the quality or natural finishing ability to be our main striker.

Add to that Doyle's ineptness at this level, Beckford's fitness issues, May coming off the back of a terrible injury, and Makienok only being on loan as it stands, the striking department is definitely an area that needs looking at in the next couple of transfer windows if we're to progress.
 
Number 1 target man for me. It's depressing that one of our so called supporters would label him a donkey. He always gives his all and with his energy and effort spreads the play. It was noticeable that when the statuesque Makienok came on that we came one dimensional and our attack fizzled out. I thought that the ref missed the blatant pushing on him when he was attacking the ball aerialy in the first half; maybe he's a bit too naive or honest-Joe Garner would have gone down ! Maybe he will be replaced if he can't keep up his early season form, but for me,with Callum Robinson he's our best frontman at the moment.
 
I think calling him a donkey is a bit harsh, but I do believe it wouldn't do him any harm to be dropped to the bench for a couple of games. He needs to know that he's not an automatic choice and to keep him chomping at the bit. He's not the finished article and the rest may do him some good.
 
roofer32 said:
Showed today exactly the type of player he is. A lumbering clueless donkey of a player that's got lucky with the goals he's scored so far this season.

Apart from the classy goal he scored around 2 months ago, he is crap.

His ball control, heading ability and winning of 50/50 headers is easy pickings for Championship centre halfs and even the clueless Moushinio(or whatever he is called) will probably not have an easier opponent all season.

I have trusted Grayson with his decisions, but to continue with 'Dobby' is proving a little frustrating.

Que the Hugil lovers!!
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Whooa, steady on tiger. A bit harsh methinks.
Didn't see todays game but I've been impressed with his strength and ability to hold players off and hd gives 100% every game, running to the end.
 
sedgwick__7 said:
He isn't a natural finisher and he lacks composure with his feet, especially in one on one situations. The concern with this, as others have alluded to in the matchday threads in the last week or so, is that these assets can't really be coached. You've either got it or you don't.

For me, Hugill is likeable, hard-working and energetic, but doesn't have the quality or natural finishing ability to be our main striker.

Add to that Doyle's ineptness at this level, Beckford's fitness issues, May coming off the back of a terrible injury, and Makienok only being on loan as it stands, the striking department is definitely an area that needs looking at in the next couple of transfer windows if we're to progress.
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You've just made me realise we ve actually no forwards. Or at least forwards who can cut it constantly at this level.

That 3 year Doyle contract was nothing short of insane.
 
pnematic said:
You've just made me realise we ve actually no forwards. Or at least forwards who can cut it constantly at this level.
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I guess I could've listed Callum Robinson too, although I prefer him in wide areas. I'm not sure if he's physical/strong enough to play as a central striker consistently. I may be in the minority on that one though.

pnematic said:
That 3 year Doyle contract was nothing short of insane.
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Agree.
 
Lots of posters saying he works hard. Yes, he does, but pretty much every other player in our side works hard too. It's the bare minimum.

Running around like a headless chicken doesn't necessarily mean he's working harder then the rest, and it's all pointless if he can't do the basics like controlling the ball, heading the ball or holding it up.

He has improved in the past few months, and at times the eye for goal he's shown has been encouraging, but too many aspects of his game, such as ball control and natural finishing with his feet, simply aren't Championship level.

A natural finisher would've scored the chance vs Wolves last weekend, and wouldn't have been on their heels when Robinson flashed the ball across the box today like Hugill was.

It's fine margins at this level and that's 4 points over the past 2 game down the drain because we don't have a finisher up top. This is where Beckford's continual injury problems are costing not just the club's bank balance but also our points tally.

My expectations aren't as high as top 6 this season, but if we ever want to do it, we need a much better striker than Hugill and we can't be wasting valuable wages/playing resources on Beckford who sits on his arse most weeks as it could be spent on other forwards who might actually grace the field of play from time to time.
 
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He's a decent player who has done well so far this season, if Beckford can ever get himself fit then he will probably reclaim his place but in the mean time we've lost once in something like 10 or 11 games.

These strikers that people are screaming out for who put away pretty much every chance cost about £10m in this league.
 
Stopped posting on here a while ago as 95% of sane people have left PNEonline leaving a forum of about 100 people, 10 of which have a brain cell to rub between them. Thought I'd drop in and have a read of kneejerk reactions to an off day.

The OPs sentiments sum it up really. Braindead morons.

Thank god the majority of people have got bored of this once excellent forum. Absolute waste of time now.
 
york white said:
Stopped posting on here a while ago as 95% of sane people have left PNEonline leaving a forum of about 100 people, 10 of which have a brain cell to rub between them. Thought I'd drop in and have a read of kneejerk reactions to an off day.

The OPs sentiments sum it up really. Braindead morons.

Thank god the majority of people have got bored of this once excellent forum. Absolute waste of time now.
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Haha, fair play. It's very 'we're 'shit' if we don't win and very 'we're gonna be fine' when we win. Very predictable and samey forum these days.

Hugill will be fine and will continue to score all season. A better striking option for us than Garner was.
 
Calling him a donkey is a little harsh but it's true that the lad is short on technical ability. He works hard yes but you need more than that at this level. We miss Beckford big time when he isn't available. Hugill just isn't a natural striker. He's never in the box when crosses go in there and he can't finish his dinner. I'd start Makienok next game to see what he has to offer. Striker in Jan is a must.
 
sedgwick__7 said:
He isn't a natural finisher and he lacks composure with his feet, especially in one on one situations. The concern with this, as others have alluded to in the matchday threads in the last week or so, is that these assets can't really be coached. You've either got it or you don't.

For me, Hugill is likeable, hard-working and energetic, but doesn't have the quality or natural finishing ability to be our main striker.

Add to that Doyle's ineptness at this level, Beckford's fitness issues, May coming off the back of a terrible injury, and Makienok only being on loan as it stands, the striking department is definitely an area that needs looking at in the next couple of transfer windows if we're to progress.
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Pretty much my sentiments although I'll add that Hugill has stepped up to the mark to some degree this season thank god! If he hadn't we'd be in the shit big time but .... with the problems mentioned above with the other strikers a decent striker has to be our priority.
 
A poor game again today, to follow his poor game V Wolves last week and both games with NO Goals.

5 goals in 17 league games, 5000 fouls given away and can't head a ball.

Not very good reading is it?

its nothing to do with today's result, it's plain and clear he is not good enough. Almost like a poor mans Neil Trebble.
 
roofer32 said:
Showed today exactly the type of player he is. A lumbering clueless donkey of a player that's got lucky with the goals he's scored so far this season.

Apart from the classy goal he scored around 2 months ago, he is crap.

His ball control, heading ability and winning of 50/50 headers is easy pickings for Championship centre halfs and even the clueless Moushinio(or whatever he is called) will probably not have an easier opponent all season.

I have trusted Grayson with his decisions, but to continue with 'Dobby' is proving a little frustrating.

Que the Hugil lovers!!
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Donaldson (Brentford)
Hooper (Sheff Wed)
Grigg (Wigan)
Baldock (Brighton)

All on 5 Goals

Jerome (Norwich)

6 goals

Kodjia (Villa)

7 goals

Not exactly Ripping the division apart are they the above !

Lot of Donkeys in this Division.
 
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