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marsbars said:
I'm sorry Thracia but I think I might have to agree with you here. I do think we should be grateful for Hugill's efforts and goals and he has done well but he'll never be good enough to be our first choice if there's any quality up front at this club.
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Hmmmm... then maybe I must be mistaken after all. 😉

I don't mean to knock the player's achievements, but I'm also not buying into the hype.

Hugill isn't undroppable, even with his exploits this season, and we have other guys sitting on the bench, patiently waiting for the chance of a start if the goals and form should dry up. Maybe we've reached that point already, maybe we haven't - SG will decide on that. But if Hugill is benched, that's fine too - he'll then be patiently waiting for the chance to return to the starting XI.

I don't think anyone should be offended by the situation either. It's where we are. It's the nature of our striking options at the moment. No obvious stars, and very much a team effort.

Tino said:
His ball control needs work, and he needs to spend less time focusing on the defender behind him and actually win the ball. He also seems very angry a lot of the time and needs to calm down especially when fouls are given against him.
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I completely agree.
 
Incredibly harsh thread!

By his own admission, he started the season with the aim of playing more minutes in the first team and pushing for a starting position. He is now our main striker, mainly by default.

Yes he has his faults and weaknesses, if he didnt he would've been in a top team and not working behind a bar a few years ago.

Give the lad a break, he's still learning the game and learning the league. The fact that he has already matched our top strikers league record for last season speaks volumes for the boy.
 
Tino said:
His ball control needs work, and he needs to spend less time focusing on the defender behind him and actually win the ball. He also seems very angry a lot of the time and needs to calm down especially when fouls are given against him.

But this sort of thread is typical of this forum after a couple of dodgy results (1 defeat in 10 lets remember) and why it's best avoided for a couple of days post match.
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Indeed. The main problem with Hugill is he plays the man not the ball and does it so blatantly that the ref gives us nothing. He barely won a header on saturday. I doubt he won more than a couple of free kicks. Generally the ball just didn't stick when we played long balls up to him.

Then again, that has also been the problem these last two games. We are playing far too direct to a forward line that just isn't up to it - admittedly this has been forced upon us somewhat as both opposition teams were happy to put ten men behind the ball. Hugill is best when making more runs down the channels rather than playing as a central target man. And with Robinson putting in back to back stinkers against Wolves and Burton, it hasn't helped take any pressure off him.

I personally think we have just had too many players putting in sub par performances in these last two games. And with key players out injured we just don't have great options to switch things around. The likes of Mcgeady are given licence to roam, but it often leads to us having zero threat down the right flank as Baptiste will pick it up and Mcgeady will be meandering around elsewhere.

I would hope we would see some attempt to freshen things up against Sheffield Wednesday.
 
marsbars said:
I agree Hugill has been pretty good but he's not (and shouldn't be) our first choice striker. Grayson did have money for strikers he spent it on May and Doyle and got big Mak in. Hmmm.....
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I mean who else could Grayson have got for 200,000? I mean he could have got the free scoring bradshaw? He has loads for Barnsley. Hmmm.....
 
Jordan Hugill's magic,
He wears a magic hat,
You can throw a brick at him,
He'll head the fucker back,
He heads it to the left,
He heads it to the right,
And when he's out about the town,
He's a head the ball alright.
 
Hope Hugill has not read this from a purported Northender - Jordan has come on in leaps and bounds this season and I still think he will improve more in the future. Yes he missed a sitter the other week - but on the same weekend a couple of multi million Liverpool players missed sitters. Hugill needs supporters to support - not come out with stupid confidence sapping comments. Jordan if you reading this - you are doing okay mate - keep working to improve - your manager knows what he is doing.
 
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sapphire said:
Hope Hugill has not read this from a purported Northender - Jordan has come on in leaps and bounds this season and I still think he will improve more in the future. Yes he missed a sitter the other week - but on the same weekend a couple of multi million Liverpool players missed sitters. Hugill needs supporters to support - not come out with stupid confidence sapping comments. Jordan if you reading this - you are doing okay mate - keep working to improve - your manager knows what he is doing.
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Spot on.
 
sapphire said:
Hope Hugill has not read this from a purported Northender - Jordan has come on in leaps and bounds this season and I still think he will improve more in the future. Yes he missed a sitter the other week - but on the same weekend a couple of multi million Liverpool players missed sitters. Hugill needs supporters to support - not come out with stupid confidence sapping comments. Jordan if you reading this - you are doing okay mate - keep working to improve - your manager knows what he is doing.
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Good post... Shouldn't the moderators think about removing this thread altogether or at least editing the title? I am all for freedom of speech but there is a strong possibility that players do read this forum & a titles such as "Hugill is a Donkey" are firstly incorrect, secondly offensive & thirdly hardly project a good image for this forum
 
I've just looked up 'donkey' in the dictionary (The Viz 'Profanisaurus' version.)

donkey 1. n. A clod-hopping footballer, such as Titus Bramble off of Wigan Athletic or St Johnstone's Michael Duberry.
2. n. A male prostitute, derived from the onomatopoetic fact that he is a 'he-whore'.
 
buckshawwhite said:
Good post... Shouldn't the moderators think about removing this thread altogether or at least editing the title? I am all for freedom of speech but there is a strong possibility that players do read this forum & a titles such as "Hugill is a Donkey" are firstly incorrect, secondly offensive & thirdly hardly project a good image for this forum
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Freedom of expression.

Roofer doesn't rate Hugill. Others do rate him. If someone posted a thread saying "Hugill is England Class", that, too, would be extreme but in the other direction. We wouldn't delete or amend that thread / title either.

I am sure that Jordan, when he collects his wages, isn't bothered by an online thread. The only 2 times a player will be really concerned is if the crowd on matchday collectively boo him and / or the manager drops him from the 1st XI / Squad altogether.
 
Dreyfuss said:
I would hope we would see some attempt to freshen things up against Sheffield Wednesday.
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Though with Gallagher and Welsh both out of the reckoning our options are limited. A fit Beckford even from the bench would certainly give us something that we perhaps have not had in the last couple of games otherwise there is Makienok. Personally I would bring Browne back alongside Pearson to help provide a bit more bite in midfield and hope that would allow our more attacking players a bit more freedom. But though our last two results - the most recent especially - have been frustrating they have not actually been catastrophically bad after we did not lose either of them.
 
ernest said:
Though with Gallagher and Welsh both out of the reckoning our options are limited. A fit Beckford even from the bench would certainly give us something that we perhaps have not had in the last couple of games otherwise there is Makienok. Personally I would bring Browne back alongside Pearson to help provide a bit more bite in midfield and hope that would allow our more attacking players a bit more freedom. But though our last two results - the most recent especially - have been frustrating they have not actually been catastrophically bad after we did not lose either of them.
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This is verging on spam.
 
Jack Daniels said:
Freedom of expression.

Roofer doesn't rate Hugill. Others do rate him. If someone posted a thread saying "Hugill is England Class", that, too, would be extreme but in the other direction. We wouldn't delete or amend that thread / title either.

I am sure that Jordan, when he collects his wages, isn't bothered by an online thread. The only 2 times a player will be really concerned is if the crowd on matchday collectively boo him and / or the manager drops him from the 1st XI / Squad altogether.
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Well said.

The forum's on its ass as it is. It certainly doesn't need censoring further.
 
ernest said:
Though with Gallagher and Welsh both out of the reckoning our options are limited. A fit Beckford even from the bench would certainly give us something that we perhaps have not had in the last couple of games otherwise there is Makienok. Personally I would bring Browne back alongside Pearson to help provide a bit more bite in midfield and hope that would allow our more attacking players a bit more freedom. But though our last two results - the most recent especially - have been frustrating they have not actually been catastrophically bad after we did not lose either of them.
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Pringle over Browne for me as long as he is fully fit. Recent run he was involved in resulted in us getting 9 points (Udders/Canaries/Millers) I know Pringle wasnt the be all and end all but he contributed and kept the midfield ticking over. I know I am going to get shot down here but for me I am still undecided on Browne at this level playing against very good championship sides.
 
gardsPNE said:
Pringle over Browne for me as long as he is fully fit. Recent run he was involved in resulted in us getting 9 points (Udders/Canaries/Millers) I know Pringle wasnt the be all and end all but he contributed and kept the midfield ticking over. I know I am going to get shot down here but for me I am still undecided on Browne at this level playing against very good championship sides.
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I'm still not really sure what Browne's strengths are and what sort of player he's aspiring to be.

That say's it all really - a decent enough sub/squad player but unless he develops some sort of "USP" over the next year or so I can't see any more than a bit-part role for him at this level.


Maybe he will develop the attacking or defensive part of his game in some way over the next year or so but, at present, its clear he's got work to do.

Pearson, on the other hand, has grasped his chance and upped his game and looks on the way to becoming a good box-to-box midefielder who can contribute effectively with and without the ball.
 
ernest said:
Though with Gallagher and Welsh both out of the reckoning our options are limited. A fit Beckford even from the bench would certainly give us something that we perhaps have not had in the last couple of games otherwise there is Makienok. Personally I would bring Browne back alongside Pearson to help provide a bit more bite in midfield and hope that would allow our more attacking players a bit more freedom. But though our last two results - the most recent especially - have been frustrating they have not actually been catastrophically bad after we did not lose either of them.
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What exactly has Browne offered to the team when played this season?



(Sweet fuck all is the answer)
 
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