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simo said:
I'm still not really sure what Browne's strengths are and what sort of player he's aspiring to be.

That say's it all really - a decent enough sub/squad player but unless he develops some sort of "USP" over the next year or so I can't see any more than a bit-part role for him at this level.


Maybe he will develop the attacking or defensive part of his game in some way over the next year or so but, at present, its clear he's got work to do.

Pearson, on the other hand, has grasped his chance and upped his game and looks on the way to becoming a good box-to-box midefielder who can contribute effectively with and without the ball.
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Agreed!! -- if we are going to be a little fair to Browne its more of a work in progress and lets see how we go.
 
Jack Daniels said:
Freedom of expression.

Roofer doesn't rate Hugill. Others do rate him. If someone posted a thread saying "Hugill is England Class", that, too, would be extreme but in the other direction. We wouldn't delete or amend that thread / title either.

I am sure that Jordan, when he collects his wages, isn't bothered by an online thread. The only 2 times a player will be really concerned is if the crowd on matchday collectively boo him and / or the manager drops him from the 1st XI / Squad altogether.
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Fair enough.. I suppose I just find the thread title a little sad & tedious that's all
 
simo said:
I'm still not really sure what Browne's strengths are and what sort of player he's aspiring to be.

That say's it all really - a decent enough sub/squad player but unless he develops some sort of "USP" over the next year or so I can't see any more than a bit-part role for him at this level.


Maybe he will develop the attacking or defensive part of his game in some way over the next year or so but, at present, its clear he's got work to do.

Pearson, on the other hand, has grasped his chance and upped his game and looks on the way to becoming a good box-to-box midefielder who can contribute effectively with and without the ball.
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Browne is very good at making late runs into the box and trying to get on the end of crosses but like Daniel Johnson I think he is asked to play too deep at times due to the system/ selection.

He's got a good engine but I don't think he's a defensive player at all and plays his best football when he's supporting the widemen and picking the ball up on the edge of the box.
 
gardsPNE said:
Pringle over Browne for me as long as he is fully fit. Recent run he was involved in resulted in us getting 9 points (Udders/Canaries/Millers) I know Pringle wasnt the be all and end all but he contributed and kept the midfield ticking over. I know I am going to get shot down here but for me I am still undecided on Browne at this level playing against very good championship sides.
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Fair enough - Browne has stalled a bit lately I agree and his stupidity at Newcastle was a major factor in the debacle that followed. I'd like to see him admit as much but more than that I'd like to see him get back on the pitch showing an evident determination to up his act and become a real force for us. Hugill, to his credit, has made real progress since his foolish sending off last season and Browne now needs to do the same. But more fundamentally I still think that without Welsh and Gallagher we do look at bit thin on midfielders with both experience and quality and that another such player - even on loan - ought to be a priority for us in the New Year.
 
Browne is a fairly raw young box-to-box player who is also half-decent when asked to man-mark an opposition midfielder.

The irony of this thread is people are asking us to have the patience of a saint over Hugill's development while Browne is already being written off.
 
simo said:
I'm still not really sure what Browne's strengths are and what sort of player he's aspiring to be.

That say's it all really - a decent enough sub/squad player but unless he develops some sort of "USP" over the next year or so I can't see any more than a bit-part role for him at this level.


Maybe he will develop the attacking or defensive part of his game in some way over the next year or so but, at present, its clear he's got work to do.

Pearson, on the other hand, has grasped his chance and upped his game and looks on the way to becoming a good box-to-box midefielder who can contribute effectively with and without the ball.
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Grayson said a while back they were looking to make him a defensive midfielder but had decided against it for now due his engine and ability to do a box to box role. For me he's a decent player who seems to have spells of good performances and then 2 or 3 shockers and seems better when playing on instinct i.e. when he picks up balls dropping in and around the box. He has been known to get the odd useful goal as well, however for now he's behind Pearson, Johnson, Gallagher and Welsh in midfield.

Exactly when is Welsh back btw?
 
Tino said:
Grayson said a while back they were looking to make him a defensive midfielder but had decided against it for now due his engine and ability to do a box to box role. For me he's a decent player who seems to have spells of good performances and then 2 or 3 shockers and seems better when playing on instinct i.e. when he picks up balls dropping in and around the box. He has been known to get the odd useful goal as well, however for now he's behind Pearson, Johnson, Gallagher and Welsh in midfield.

Exactly when is Welsh back btw?
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Browne needs to learn when to release the ball as he is good at getting past 1 or 2 players in tight situations but usually runs into trouble.

He is not alone as Robinson and Mcgeady show.
 
Whilst trying hard on Saturday he frankly looked way out of his depth.

The striking department has to be a priority in January.
 
Thracia said:
Browne is a fairly raw young box-to-box player who is also half-decent when asked to man-mark an opposition midfielder.
The irony of this thread is people are asking us to have the patience of a saint over Hugill's development while Browne is already being written off.
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Browne has put in some superb performances at home and on the road. Credit to Grayson for selecting him, as he has worked well alongside Gallagher.
If you have an agenda to pick faults, then his errors will strengthen that agenda, but so should they strengthen any agenda to pick faults with ALL other players.
 
paolo poggi said:
This attempt at a sentence speaks volumes about the validity of the rest of the comment.
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So for one spelling mistake I've become a thick twat who has no valid opinion to offer?

I notice he didn't score again on Saturday. So, that's probably down to my spelling mistake then!!
 
Really poor performance from him tonight. Some of his finishing was very bad and how long he took to shoot when Pearson slipped him in was just ridiculous.

As I think I said earlier in the thread, he's likeable and works hard but technically he is very limited and he's not a natural finisher whatsoever and despite his run of goals earlier in the season, I don't think he's good enough to be a regular starter for us in the long-term.

Personally I don't think Makienok looked like a donkey tonight. He won absolutely everything, probably would've scored if it weren't for a handball and was a real handful for the defenders. I'd like to see him have a run of games.
 
I think he has looked like a Joe-Garner-from-last-season tribute act since the international break.

Not a target man, never looks like scoring, plays the man not the ball, and doesn't win free kicks with his antics.

Needs a rest IMO.
 
sedgwick__7 said:
Really poor performance from him tonight. Some of his finishing was very bad and how long he took to shoot when Pearson slipped him in was just ridiculous.

As I think I said earlier in the thread, he's likeable and works hard but technically he is very limited and he's not a natural finisher whatsoever and despite his run of goals earlier in the season, I don't think he's good enough to be a regular starter for us in the long-term.

Personally I don't think Makienok looked like a donkey tonight. He won absolutely everything, probably would've scored if it weren't for a handball and was a real handful for the defenders. I'd like to see him have a run of games.
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Spot on mate. Big Mak was a handful tonight and got loads of flick ons.

Kevin Friend had a very good game IMO.
 
The lad needs a spell on the bench. Clearly off form but I'm not writing him off yet. For me Mak and Robbo should be tried together for a few games.
 
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