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I still think Mak may come back and surprise a few again before the end of the season.

When he had a run of games over Xmas time he showed what he is a capable of. A really good performance vs Blackburn at home, a goal away at Forest, a goal away at Bristol City, then a decent performance at home to Leeds too.

He'll never make much of an impact with sub appearances like on Saturday when he comes on and suddenly everything is hoofed towards him 30 yards from goal. He's shown himself to be better when starting games.

Obviously as a big, tall, clumsy striker he won't be everyone's cup of tea but I honestly think he has value within the squad due to his physical presence. He's useful for defending set pieces too which is a bonus.
 
I like Makienok, definitely has something to offer in a 4-4-2 alongside Robinson or May.

Starting him alongside Hugill is absolute shite though.
 
Our most prolific striker in recent years (Garner) gave me no confidence from 12 yards so I'm not too fussed about a penalty miss here or there by Hugill. He'll end the season our top goalscorer, FACT

Big Mak has shown to be actually pretty good when given a chance from the start. Of all our strikers, throwing him on with 15 minutes to go and going route 1 does him (and us no favours).

If available at a knock down price, I'd take him on a perm in the summer and offload Doyle if possible.
 
haggy45 said:
Our most prolific striker in recent years (Garner) gave me no confidence from 12 yards so I'm not too fussed about a penalty miss here or there by Hugill. He'll end the season our top goalscorer, FACT

Big Mak has shown to be actually pretty good when given a chance from the start. Of all our strikers, throwing him on with 15 minutes to go and going route 1 does him (and us no favours).

If available at a knock down price, I'd take him on a perm in the summer and offload Doyle if possible.
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Makienok showed his effectiveness after an extended run in the team.
 
How many times do we see Makienok inside the box?

How many times do we see Makienok getting shots away when he has played?

He seems to be a giant version of Stuart Beavon. He wasn't good enough either.

Makienok is an okay player at best but nothing more and I don't think he is the type we need if harbouring Top 6 ambitions next season.

All about opinions at the end of the day.
 
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Jack Daniels said:
How many times do we see Makienok inside the box?

How many times do we see Makienok getting shots away when he has played?

He seems to be a giant version of Stuart Beavon. He wasn't good enough either.

All about opinions at the end of the day.
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Makienok has shown himself to be a pretty good finisher when chances fall his way and some of our past strikers would love playing with him. Imagine him alongside e.g. Beckford in 2015 form? He isn't a cracjshot goalscorer but he is a very useful forward player. Hugill is not dissimilar but seems to offer a little bit more on all fronts, hence he's currently in the side.

Its about balance and partnerships when it comes down to it. If we're creating chances and scoring goals as a collective then its happy days. Hugill could probably be improved upon but we'd have to question if that's realistic financially. If not then we have to look at other ways and bringing in the likes of Horgan and McGeady is a way of doing this.

And before we eat ourselves up too much, 4 wins, 5 draws and a loss from the last 10 - 17 points. Still a fairly good return even given it feels like we've not quite kicked on as we'd really have liked. With Hugill another year older and wiser, Horgan better wised up to the english game and who knows what other changes the future is still bright, even without the 8 figure striker that people are effectively asking for.
 
haggy45 said:
Our most prolific striker in recent years (Garner) gave me no confidence from 12 yards so I'm not too fussed about a penalty miss here or there by Hugill. He'll end the season our top goalscorer, FACT

Big Mak has shown to be actually pretty good when given a chance from the start. Of all our strikers, throwing him on with 15 minutes to go and going route 1 does him (and us no favours).

If available at a knock down price, I'd take him on a perm in the summer and offload Doyle if possible.
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Regarding Doyle perhaps he will help fire Portsmouth to promotion then seal a deal with them for their assault on League 1 next season. If we then free up Beckford also there should be some funds for a striker who hopefully fires in 15+ goals. Sounds easy in theory!
 
Jack Daniels said:
How many times do we see Makienok inside the box?

How many times do we see Makienok getting shots away when he has played?

He seems to be a giant version of Stuart Beavon. He wasn't good enough either.

Makienok is an okay player at best but nothing more and I don't think he is the type we need if harbouring Top 6 ambitions next season.

All about opinions at the end of the day.
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Sure he was in the box for his goals against Bournemouth, Notts Forest and Brighton.
 
No Danger said:
Regarding Doyle perhaps he will help fire Portsmouth to promotion then seal a deal with them for their assault on League 1 next season. If we then free up Beckford also there should be some funds for a striker who hopefully fires in 15+ goals. Sounds easy in theory!
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They seem to think his movement is great and his positioning is too, but apparently the service to him is absolutely shocking so he's not been firing but scoring one against the lashers is good imo!
 
Jack Daniels said:
Beckford and Makienok are simply not good enough.


Next season...

Hugill
Robinson
May
New Striker (not a gamble like Doyle either, has to be a proper striker who CAN score at this level)
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Genuine question JD, how much do you think that would cost both in transfer fee/signing on fee/agents fee/annual salary/image rights etc?

More than TH is prepared to spend is my answer, what's yours?
 
Albertan said:
Genuine question JD, how much do you think that would cost both in transfer fee/signing on fee/agents fee/annual salary/image rights etc?

More than TH is prepared to spend is my answer, what's yours?
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You do not have to spend big (see Hugill, Robinson) to sign someone who can score. We have tried gambles like Cummins, Little, Doyle, Makienok, Beavon to name but a few recently and not a single one has worked to the extent of doing the job they were bought for, namely, to score some goals.

I am sure that by offloading Beckford (OoC), Lindegaard (OoC), Makienok (end of loan), Doyle (not good enough), Pringle (not good enough) and Baptiste (injured, end of loan), that we will be saving some serious serious coin.

We still have the Bailey Wright money (I hope), the 2nd payment of the Garner money to come plus money raised / saved from the above.

I would try to get the following.

McGeady (Loan or Perm)
Browning (Loan)
Striker (whoever that might be)
Keeper (this a tricky one, is it a youngster to compete with Hudson for the bench or a Senior Pro to compete with Maxwell? Option 1 is cheaper).

Have I missed anyone out?
 
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sf said:
I like Makienok, definitely has something to offer in a 4-4-2 alongside Robinson or May.

Starting him alongside Hugill is absolute shite though.
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Agreed. Beckford will very likely be gone next season - maybe he will go to China. But Makienok may come back and I would not necessarily be averse to the idea.
 
Jack Daniels said:
You do not have to spend big (see Hugill, Robinson) to sign someone who can score. We have tried gambles like Cummins, Little, Doyle, Makienok, Beavon to name but a few recently and not a single one has worked to the extent of doing the job they were bought for, namely, to score some goals.

I am sure that by offloading Beckford (OoC), Lindegaard (OoC), Makienok (end of loan), Doyle (not good enough), Pringle (not good enough) and Baptiste (injured, end of loan), that we will be saving some serious serious coin.

We still have the Bailey Wright money (I hope), the 2nd payment of the Garner money to come plus money raised / saved from the above.

I would try to get the following.

McGeady (Loan or Perm)
Browning (Loan)
Striker (whoever that might be)
Keeper (this a tricky one, is it a youngster to compete with Hudson for the bench or a Senior Pro to compete with Maxwell? Option 1 is cheaper).

Have I missed anyone out?
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Why would we still have the Bailey Wright money? We operate at a loss, I'm sure the money isn't stashed in a plastic bag somewhere waiting to be spent. Also the final instalment on Garner will already be spoken for in paying our running costs.
 
Pilot said:
Why would we still have the Bailey Wright money? We operate at a loss, I'm sure the money isn't stashed in a plastic bag somewhere waiting to be spent. Also the final instalment on Garner will already be spoken for in paying our running costs.
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Please notice that I said (I hope).
 
If we are looking for a finisher, have an early word with the venkys, when bastard wovers go down they will be up shit creek in a wire mesh canoe, get an early, ready money bid for Danny Graham !!!
 
Pilot said:
Why would we still have the Bailey Wright money? We operate at a loss, I'm sure the money isn't stashed in a plastic bag somewhere waiting to be spent. Also the final instalment on Garner will already be spoken for in paying our running costs.
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I wonder how many clubs don't operate at a loss??

Some at huge losses.
 
PNEESSEX said:
Apart from prem clubs, I imagine most lose money hand over fist
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The wright money probably pays for Hemmings' "contribution" for about 6 weeks, maybe 2 months at the most. Saved wages probably pay for a portion of the Horgan, Boyle, Barkhuizen transfers (or Pearson's rise).

Anyone who thinks we'll be seeing that money reinvested in the form of transfer fees needs to get off the sauce.
 
In normal conditions he would be loaned out to get sharper in front of goal , the fact is Grayson has no option other than to play him , Hugill has bags of talent and will make it big one day , just get off his back as he is doing his best.
 
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