Certainly not Mckenna!
It's either the ball back to Youl putting him under pressure or the blind hoof over the shoulder to the ball boy behind the goal.
Improved McKenna Bid (Rejected)
Certainly not Mckenna!
It's either the ball back to Youl putting him under pressure or the blind hoof over the shoulder to the ball boy behind the goal.
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jaymo
all williamson did was prove beyond any reasonable doubt that to get the best out of mckenna you provide him with a partner who will provide his legs and provide a bit of bite and drive in midfield, chaplow did this before williamson. Hes not been able to impose himself on a game for the last 2 years when hes been asked to be a purely defensive player. He tries, but he simply cant do it.
McKennas always been the type of player who has the awareness to keep posession well and make good decisions, its got nothing to do with the "450 games under his belt", its just the type of player he is.
Ultimately though, we have a million pound rated midfielder with prem experience and a player with european football under his belt who are simply unable to play with McKenna because for all his experience, he cant provide the attributes and the platform needed for them to perform unfortunately. If we sign any purely creative midfielder and partner him with McKenna, we are gonna see the same thing happen again and see more money we havent got wasted.
Which central midfield in the whole of the Championship has the time to put his foot on the ball and think? Top players have actually decided what to with the ball before they receive it.
If you had time to think Carter would probably be a superstar.
Next time you decide to post on the internet put your foot on the keyboard and think. The result will probably make more sense.
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Jaymo, I know you think I am always having a go at you but your post is meaningless. Tell us your footballing experience to make such long-winded judgements. How the hell can you judge who can play with whom? You are not quite in the extreme camp but let me quote an extract from Rod Liddle (a major sports commentator on the Sunday Times):
"Football fans are almost always wrong; wrong about team selection, wrong about the manager, and so on. The best clubs ensure that the supporters don't have to pay too much to get in and are decently treated while watching their team, but otherwise ignore the demands from the terrace".
If any member of this forum, and I include myself, were to be given the opportunity to manage any professional club for a week, they would either give up, or be thrown out on their arse, by morning tea break on the first day
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Who this???!!
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The Gentry (RIP)
Hard to disagree, so why oh why do you try so hard to convince us you know what you're talking about and in the process do nothing other than convince everybody you are a clueless buffooon? 😕
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its a message board pisaac. usually they are about people discussing their opinions and I base mine on what I see on the pitch. I dont base my opinions on what Rodney Marsh wrote in the mirror in his ghostwritten column in the daily star last week or that innocuous comment Jim Smith made in a press conference in 2002 unlike some of us. 🙄
Im also pretty pragmatic. I see that McKenna has been in the team all season, yet without chaplow or Williamson beside him the form of the whole team has gone from automatic promotion form to certain relegation form. Now you might see a severe change and think its down to the contstants, or even merely coincidence, but I dont, I see the changes as the cause.
I see that when given a free reign on the right with no responsibility to defend Nicholson can score goals, make incisive passes and just generally be a threat, yet put him in the middle with a man who doesnt like to stray outside the centre circle too much and he plays like a 13 year old girl.
Am I seriously presenting anything as fact? no, how can I, its my opinion you dick, but I repeat this is a message board for people (fans) to debate their opinions, and you call my post meaningless. 🙄 it beggars belief.
On your last paragraph, im sure to an extent its true, but are you saying that not one fan in the whole of this country has anywhere near the same understanding of the game as any ex pro, IMO that is ridiculous. Why is it the Truly great footballers never seem to make great managers yet the footballers who have a modest career in the game tend to be the ones who turn out to be the truly great managers.
It couldnt be that you dont need the intrinsic ability to kick a ball to be a good manager and that having the right attitude, the right drive and the right kind of mentality is far more important by any chance.
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carter, who we rated at more then a million pounds.
Simpson rated him at more than a million pound, this is also the same manager who thought Kawl Hawley could play at CCC level, and replace David Nugent.
To be fair, no-one was complaining when we signed Carter - he was rated by most as a very good signing.
I agree I remember a few on the Entertainment / Film thread saying 'Get Carter'.
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I was one that was happy with the signing of Carter but he's been a major disapointment. Whenever I had seen him he looked a good player always getting involved. At PNE he doesn't look interested, but there have been glimpses of a decent player in there.
As for Nicholls, I knew he would be a waste of money as injuries had took there toll. He also wasn't great whilst at Luton but could go around fouling allover the pitch.
As for Nicholls, I knew he would be a waste of money as injuries had took there toll. He also wasn't great whilst at Luton but could go around fouling allover the pitch.
shaky
The Gentry (RIP)
To be fair, when the manager is saying that we're going to struggle this season, I can't imagine any of the players getting too enthusiastic, let alone Carter.
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jaymo
who derek sanctioned at a million pounds, and WBA valued him at that.
and lets not continue with the "Hawley was Nugents replacement" myth because it simply isnt true. Hawley was brought in as a squad player and it was made very clear at the time.
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Did we get him on a free or was it for a nominal amount?
I can't remember. Just wondering, like, why bother wasting money on a squad player when it is blatantly obvious we need a replacement for our top striker?
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Uurrgghhh!!! That's disgusting...
I remember Nicholls debut in a friendly. He ran around like a knob for the whole match and was rarely within 20ft of the ball. When it did come near him someone from the opposition generally ended up being put on their arse. He was shocking.
I was another that thought Carter would be the quality signing we needed in midfield so that shows how much I know 🙁
Nicholls was one of the biggest cloggers I've ever seen at North End. No talent whatsoever. Crap player.
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because Mellor was supposed to be the saviour of PNE if you remember. Hawley was a free brought in to make up the numbers and plug a few gaps, which, to be fair, hes done.
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I think thats pretty harsh. You could tell from day one he had a decent range of passing, is just that we got off to a bad start and we resorted to giving it him to bang long balls for Paddy to run on to.
Paddy, while quick, simply didnt have the brain to play that kind of game.